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I am a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 69 20.29%
I am a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 80 23.53%
I am not a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 59 17.35%
I am not a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 132 38.82%
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Old 06-19-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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Fines will not work against employers. As i have said before that several Texas businesses have paid millions in fines. It is just a cost of doing business. I suggest prison, or as another poster suggested, seizing their assets.

No Democrat that I know of is against securing the border. Some think a wall will not do it. Did ya see the pictures of the smuggler's tunnel under Duncan Hunter's wall in San Diego?

When e verify was going to pass in Texas it was stopped by a Republican home builder, Bob Perry.
I agree, many are complicit, but President Trump is not one of them, which was the original point. We should be willing to pay a little more for a new roof or for tomatoes to guarantee that legal labor is being used. Many industries use legal labor and they do just fine.

The President wishes to implement real reforms, which have been stopped by Nancy and Chuck.

 
Old 06-19-2018, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Yeah, school that is paid for by US taxpayers. I don't want to pay for schools for illegal invaders. Only legal citizens.
If these kids can’t be reunited with their parents to be returned to their home countries, you’ll be paying for their time in foster care, school, healthcare...

Yes, indeedy.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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If the Democrats really feel for these kids, they can sit down and get a compromise with the President tonight, bringing an end to this and putting in place some reforms.

Just do not let Lying Dickie Durban anywhere near the negotiations.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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You'll never hear this from a lefty. It's much easier to tug on the heart strings with sobbing children than to think the root cause of the problem.



This post should be made a sticky.


It perfectly encapsulates the heartlessness of everything said by Trump voters in this thread.


Care not about the 'sobbing children'. It doesn't fit our agenda.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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This post should be made a sticky.


It perfectly encapsulates the heartlessness of everything said by Trump voters in this thread.


Care not about the 'sobbing children'. It doesn't fit our agenda.
You must have a good heart, because you're so easily fooled and played by the Democrats, as shown by your comments.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I would.

Also -- some have expressed concern for the safety of the kids with some of the adults.

This way unverified families can be monitored while they wait for a hearing.

I know the cages thing is getting great traction. It isn't great to see the temporary walls created out of gates but there is a significant cost and practicality to that. I'm less worried about that structural stuff -- it would be nicer to have more aesthetically pleasing facilities but at some point cost/efficiency/practicality kicks in.
Why did these super honorable "parents" allow someone to separate then from their kids? Why did these "parents" put thier children in a situation where they could be separated? Did you ever stop to think about that?
 
Old 06-19-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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You must have a good heart, because you're so easily fooled and played by the Democrats, as shown by your comments.

Yes, I do have a good heart, thanks.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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This response should explain it all for those who don't do their research and believe the media.Shelia Hatley Wallace I will just leave this right here...

“In March of 1993, The United States Supreme Court issued a ruling in Reno v Flores. (Yes, “That” Reno. Janet Reno, Bill Clinton’s first Attorney General who ordered that young Elian Gonzalez be torn from his family’s arms while hiding in a Miami closet. You might remember the iconic photograph.)

The Court in Flores decided that minors could not be incarcerated with the adults accompanying them across the United States border illegally. The decision was the result of a long dispute in how to best care for these children while the adults were detained for criminal proceedings.

You see, when aliens cross the border illegally, they are incarcerated until their criminal case is decided. The understandable argument at the time was “why should children be incarcerated while their parents are in jail?” It seemed a fundamental violation of international human rights. Makes sense, right?

As a result, The Flores case drew a line in the sand. Children could not be incarcerated with their parents or accompanying adult while being held for illegal immigration violations. And a subsequent 1997 agreement stipulated that children must be placed in a safer environment where they could enjoy certain privileges, including education, a clean, safe environment and other normal life cycle amenities that incarcerated individuals do not enjoy.

It was considered a “victory” for human rights. By separating adult and child, we protected the children, reducing any harm done to them for their parent’s or accompanying adult’s decisions.

A lot has happened since then. However; bottom line, these juvenile, shelters have been operating in accordance with the law, and overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services to protect those children from the hazards of parental incarceration since 1997.

So, since Donald Trump was running his real estate empire, selling wine and casinos in 1993, we are left to determine just how he managed to orchestrate this cruel “separation of immigrant parent and child” 25 years BEFORE he was President of the United States. The obvious answer is, he didn’t. He had nothing to do with establishing this United States immigration policy. Today, he simply enforces it.

This one story illustrates how important it is for us to do our research regarding today’s headlines. The Corporate Media either refuses to do the research, is incapable of doing the research or has done the research and decided to lie to you about its findings. Either way, this would make the Corporate Media lazy, incompetent or just plain deceptive. Liars, if you will.”
 
Old 06-19-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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Yes, I do have a good heart, thanks.
Not like us heartless, hateful creatures who can see right through the bs from the Democrats. The heartless people in this situation are the Democrats, who as usual use people as pawns in their game and the only thing they are interested in is pursuing their crusade against the American taxpayer.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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As a Cruz supporter, I must, with a heavy heart, as is my patriotic duty to country over officeholder, say THIS BILL SUCKS! This bill appears NOT to try and aim to deport the crimmigrant children, but to ensure that they become "anchor children" so that the invasion can continue! I don't know what Senator Cruz is smoking, but he'd better stop it quickly or he might lose his election in November when his base, angry at his betrayal, stays home!
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