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I am a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 69 20.29%
I am a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 80 23.53%
I am not a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 59 17.35%
I am not a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 132 38.82%
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Old 06-19-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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Trump and his allies appeal to the worst traits in humans. They are all truly a deplorable bunch. Zero empathy and care for others.
And yet you don't care that many of these kids have been trafficked. Here you are whining because the ones who sneaked across the border rather than presenting themselves to a BP checkpoint are being separated from the kids. Many of these kids are being trafficked and are not even related to the adult who was with them. But you don't care. Even if some of these people are traffickers, you still want the kids to stay with them. And you have the audacity to call others who don't agree with you "a deplorable bunch" and claim we have "zero empathy". Oh...the irony.

 
Old 06-19-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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If DACA was as important to the dems as they claim then why is not building the wall more important then DACA? It's not like any of them are penny pinchers when it comes to spending tax money. So what is it that makes the wall, or no wall, more important?

The dems are already saying that they will reject the rights fix for family separations, sight unseen. More than likely it's just because it may contain wall funding .. why is stopping the wall from being built more important than DACA and more important than kids currently being separated? It's not money. What is it?
IIRC, the last time this came up and the congress was seeking a solution, the Ds gave him the wall. He used some excuse to nix the whole package.

IMO, the wall is a ruse. The Republicans convinced their base that nothing could be done to stop illegals until a wall was built. The knew it would never happen. They do not want illegal able bodied men stopped from coming over. Where would they get the people to do all their work?

Now that the base finally realizes that all the benefits and school taxes are costing them more in tax dollars than what they are saving on the price of cut up chicken, they want it stopped.

What to do? What to do?
 
Old 06-19-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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It is the law. It is illegal to enter the US other than at a port of arrival. If parents are arrested for illegal entry, their children cannot be detained with their parents. Which part of that is not the law? Are you saying Trump can simply suspend the law?

That's false. There is no law that requires mandatory child confiscation by the US government. Discretion may be used.

Bush and Obama chose to keep families together where possible.

Trump is choosing to confiscate and segregate children. It's a voluntary, internal policy memo. Trump could end it immediately, no action from Congress needed. For whatever reason he's choosing to go to the mat on this issue.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 04:36 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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More feigned outrage from the left...

This hysteria they've manufactured is more damaging than any "separation" could ever be.

MOST of the children in these facilities are unaccompanied minors; approximately 10000 out of the 120000 are. Of that 2000 a number of them were brought in by smugglers or people with no relation to the children. The rest are byproducts of their parents who are being prosecuted.

This idea of "traumatized children" being ripped from the suckling breast of their mothers is BS.

The kids are basically in a long term day care. Foster Care agencies have them in every city and every county around the country. They receive their own legal representation, healthcare, 24/7 supervision, food, housing and recreational activities.

But somehow the left gets to make up stories about children being kept in cages, "internment camps" and "disappearing", while dog whistling comparisons to the holocaust in the news cycle. It's absolutely ridiculous and absolutely disgusting.

I'm with Trump on this one. If you see the process and the policy and the end result; very little of anything is actually damaging, or in humane about it.

If they want a change, let congress come to an agreement on something that makes sense and put it on Trumps desk. But let's be real, the Democrats don't want to solve the "issue" they just need A "issue" to rile their base up about. Chuck Schumer could change this tomorrow if he wanted to, but he won't because HE KNOWS the Dems need to grieve about something going into the mid terms
 
Old 06-19-2018, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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they are here illegally..... send them all packing

we should not be rewarding (amnesty/citizenship) for an illegal action (criminal action actually)

how is it cruel to uphold THE LAW???


the fact is every "dreamer" is an ILLEGAL, they are not even 'anchor babies' , they are illegal, and came here ILLEGALLY with their parents... GIVING amnesty is rewarding the criminals... yes criminals... ILLEGAL ENTRY is a crime




logical people dont reward an illegal action..... these people are NOT refuges 'seeking' asylum...

these people are ILLEGAL who got caught,

and now DEMAND asylum


Quote:
Bill Clinton passed a law in 1996, that separated children from adults entering the USA illegally...…… liberals cheered

Obama enforced the very same law though-out his entire presidency……... liberals cheered

president Trump is now "left to deal with it"...… and liberals are angry...……………………

go figure
yes blame goes to the liberhadists


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the flood gates were opened in 1965...EVERY amnesty bill was written by ted kennedy....

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In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’
old liberal ted lied

as usual all liberal can do is lie

Ronald Reagan was opposed to illegal immigration and amnesty. In fact, if you do a little research you will find that stopping illegal immigration was part of the Republican National Committee’s platform back then and Ronald Reagan ran on that platform.

The 1986 Immigration Reform Act that rewarded illegal aliens with amnesty was known as the Simpson-Massoli bill of 1986. When first drafted, the bill was suppose to make it a criminal offense for aliens who were not authorized to work in the United States a federal criminal act and that it would be a federal crime for employers to hire illegal aliens.

Here's what happened, the Democrats in Congress refused to sign on this bill unless the 1.5 million illegal aliens already thought to be in the country illegally and would qualify for amnesty were rewarded amnesty. (reason being, if these illegal’s were to become U.S. citizens, guess what party they would most likely vote for ? )

So the amnesty part was added on to the bill other wise the Democrats wouldn't sign on. And to muffle the out cry, the American people were told that this amnesty was a one time thing and would never be repeated again.

Well the bill passed both houses of Congress and President Reagan signed the bill. In the inner circles of the administration, Ronald Reagan was to have said he may have made a mistake by signing the bill.

Guess what ?, it wasn't 1.5 million illegal aliens who would have qualified for amnesty. It turns out that over 3 million were rewarded with amnesty, mostly because of the fraud that took place during the amnesty process. Phony rent receipts, phony pay check stubs, liberal judges expunging criminal records of illegal aliens!!!

And after the bill became law, you had Teddy Kennedy and the other liberals watered down the enforcement part of the bill that had to do with enforcing and prosecuting employers who hired illegal aliens.



Here is Ted Kennedy commenting on the 1965 immigration bill,Quote:
“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission.” End of Quote.

In 1994, Ted Kennedy’s Section 245(i) Amnesty gave legal residence and jobs to 578,000 illegal aliens. It was a temporary rolling amnesty primarily for extended family members of immigrants who instead of waiting in line, come on to the country illegally.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy’s extension of the Section 245(i) rolling amnesty was followed by an increasing flow of illegal immigration.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy also won an amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. Illegal immigration sped up some more.

In 1998, Ted Kennedy won an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy got the so-called Late Amnesty, legalizing another 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed that they missed out on Kennedy’s 1986 amnesty.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy also won the LIFE Act Amnesty for an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. It was another reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty...an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. Illegal immigration accelerated.






liberals will lie no matter what...….. why do the fasco-socialist liberals continue to coddle criminals???
 
Old 06-19-2018, 04:40 PM
 
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Unbelievable. They're mindless contrarians. If Trump said violence is bad, they'd start making proclamations about why we need to be understanding when it comes to violence. The party has been hijacked by nutballs who are quick to point fingers.



Probably victims of some sex trafficking ring. Big problem, indeed.


I have a generalized feeling that the SS agents assigned to Trump once he is no longer POTUS may end up being the busiest, hardest worked SS agents who will have ever covered a former POTUS.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 04:40 PM
 
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I think the baby-snatching policy will hurt the GOP in the midterms
You wish. The fakers who pretend it's all about the children don't vote Republican regardless.
Obama separated the kid from the adults. Yes, he did. deny it all you want.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 04:40 PM
 
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BREAKING: McConnell to support a bill to end child confiscation. “I support, and all of the senators of the Republican conference support, a plan that keeps families together,” McConnell told reporters.

https://twitter.com/SenateMajLdr/sta...95869072252928

It's all over. Trump lost this battle. Dems 1, Trump 0.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by itshim View Post
More feigned outrage from the left...

This hysteria they've manufactured is more damaging than any "separation" could ever be.

MOST of the children in these facilities are unaccompanied minors; approximately 10000 out of the 120000 are. Of that 2000 a number of them were brought in by smugglers or people with no relation to the children. The rest are byproducts of their parents who are being prosecuted.

This idea of "traumatized children" being ripped from the suckling breast of their mothers is BS.

The kids are basically in a long term day care. Foster Care agencies have them in every city and every county around the country. They receive their own legal representation, healthcare, 24/7 supervision, food, housing and recreational activities.

But somehow the left gets to make up stories about children being kept in cages, "internment camps" and "disappearing", while dog whistling comparisons to the holocaust in the news cycle. It's absolutely ridiculous and absolutely disgusting.
yep...

again the public is falling for the fasco-socialist liberal lies
 
Old 06-19-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
BREAKING: McConnell to support a bill to end child confiscation. “I support, and all of the senators of the Republican conference support, a plan that keeps families together,” McConnell told reporters.


https://twitter.com/SenateMajLdr/sta...95869072252928


It's all over. Trump lost this battle. Dems 1, Trump 0.
mcconnel is an idiot... falling for the liberal lies
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