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Old 05-24-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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Inappropriate behavior? What the hell is that?

If he sexually assaulted someone, or he sexually abused someone over whom he was in authority, then hold him accountable, by all means. But trying to ruin someone for something as vague, subjective and probably as unsubstantiatable as "Inappropriate behavior" is just over-the-top wrong.

This me-too movement has turned into an out-of control witch hunt and lynch mob, which itself needs to be lynched.
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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all it takes is the accusation. sad what our society has come to. holding judgement until more info comes out...
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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“Time to get busy livin, or get busy dyin’.”

“Oh, Andy!”
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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OP...if they are male and not homosexual...they are most likely a #metoo candidate. And if homosexual, they will be #metoo'ers for the guys.

Just how men are.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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all it takes is the accusation. sad what our society has come to. holding judgement until more info comes out...
Of course, many women would respond that for decades (even centuries) their accusing men with sexual offenses, up to and including rape, often led to.....nothing.


Yes, it is sad that nowadays a simple accusation by a woman against a man can result in harm (reputation, economically) to the man.


But, it was also sad that for years a simple accusation by a woman against a man was not believed, especially if the man was considered 'powerful'. If the woman's accusation seemed credible on its face, then those in power in Hollywood or D.C. would start the publicity machine going casting aspersions on the woman's character (of her having former lovers and hence a tramp; of dressing provocatively and hence a tramp; of being unemployed and hence a 'gold digger').


It is akin to the police brutality against black people. When I was a youth in the 1960s, it was common to read that some black suspect was killed while 'resisting arrest'. That members of the black community would argue that the deceased was not resisting arrest, and that there would often be witnesses to the contrary (themselves black) was futile.


With the advent of camcorders (think Rodney King) and then of cell phones with video capacity, and finally of recording devices on police vests, many started to see that black men were often being killed for literally 'being black', for offenses such as selling single cigarettes, walking down a bridge, what have you. The old defense of 'resisting arrest' was very much weakened.


I do wish that there was some mechanism in which 'truth' could be readily established in cases like this. My legal background and way of thinking abhors the thought that an 'accusation' is accepted as 'guilt'.


Alas! Presumption of innocence is the rule of law in court, not the court of public opinion.


I was one of those that laughed when Vice President Pence reported that he would never be alone in a room with a woman not his wife. I would now recommend this practice for those in Hollywood and Washington D.C. If nothing else, it may cause the man, if so inclined to make unwanted advances towards a woman, to rethink his actions with a witness present.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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Inappropriate behavior? What the hell is that?

If he sexually assaulted someone, or he sexually abused someone over whom he was in authority, then hold him accountable, by all means. But trying to ruin someone for something as vague, subjective and probably as unsubstantiatable as "Inappropriate behavior" is just over-the-top wrong.

This me-too movement has turned into an out-of control witch hunt and lynch mob, which itself needs to be lynched.
Before being so outraged, maybe read the actual article, not just the tweet.

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But the job quickly devolved into several months of harassment, she told CNN. She alleges that Freeman subjected her to unwanted touching and comments about her figure and clothing on a near-daily basis. Freeman would rest his hand on her lower back or rub her lower back, she said.
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kept trying to lift up my skirt and asking if I was wearing underwear
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Freeman subjected them to unwanted touching
Is that all inappropriate enough now? I'm always suspect of these types of claims, but they have 16 people on record and others who didn't want to talk but identified who it was in question before being told the name.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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Oh noo. Hes one of my favorite actors and always seemed so pragmatic when intrerviewed. I hope its not true
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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If he actually assaulted anyome, and this wasn't just a case of a guy trying to hook up, I hope he's prosecuted.

If not, though, I hope he stands up and says so, in as colorful language as he can dream up.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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I was one of those that laughed when Vice President Pence reported that he would never be alone in a room with a woman not his wife. I would now recommend this practice for those in Hollywood and Washington D.C.
This should be standard for any man even in a Business environment. The risks of being alone with a woman is too high and should be avoided if possible.

False accusations and Risk reduction for any Executive should be priority.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Of course, many women would respond that for decades (even centuries) their accusing men with sexual offenses, up to and including rape, often led to.....nothing.


Yes, it is sad that nowadays a simple accusation by a woman against a man can result in harm (reputation, economically) to the man.


But, it was also sad that for years a simple accusation by a woman against a man was not believed, especially if the man was considered 'powerful'. If the woman's accusation seemed credible on its face, then those in power in Hollywood or D.C. would start the publicity machine going casting aspersions on the woman's character (of her having former lovers and hence a tramp; of dressing provocatively and hence a tramp; of being unemployed and hence a 'gold digger').


It is akin to the police brutality against black people. When I was a youth in the 1960s, it was common to read that some black suspect was killed while 'resisting arrest'. That members of the black community would argue that the deceased was not resisting arrest, and that there would often be witnesses to the contrary (themselves black) was futile.


With the advent of camcorders (think Rodney King) and then of cell phones with video capacity, and finally of recording devices on police vests, many started to see that black men were often being killed for literally 'being black', for offenses such as selling single cigarettes, walking down a bridge, what have you. The old defense of 'resisting arrest' was very much weakened.


I do wish that there was some mechanism in which 'truth' could be readily established in cases like this. My legal background and way of thinking abhors the thought that an 'accusation' is accepted as 'guilt'.


Alas! Presumption of innocence is the rule of law in court, not the court of public opinion.


I was one of those that laughed when Vice President Pence reported that he would never be alone in a room with a woman not his wife. I would now recommend this practice for those in Hollywood and Washington D.C. If nothing else, it may cause the man, if so inclined to make unwanted advances towards a woman, to rethink his actions with a witness present.
As I have said, Trump has done more for the women’s movement than all Democratic presidents combined.

This reminds me of how much society has changed in such a short time. When Morgan Freeman was the POTUS in that movie about the Asteroid coming towards earth, I remember Howard Stern made a joke, that while off color (no pun intended), was totally acceptable at that time. They were having a conversation about the movie and Howard said “You have a black president, that’s scary enough, what do you need the asteroid for?”

At the time, I just chuckled and life went on. Today, that joke would be career suicide.
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