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What is happening in Britain's Police State, is the very thing that was going on behind the Berlin Wall, before it came tumbling down.
People that have had a taste of freedoms and liberties, won't put up with it.
You do realise don't you, that although the United States has only 5% of the worlds population, it contains 25% of the worlds prisoners. Now that's what you call a police state.
You do realise don't you, that although the United States has only 5% of the worlds population, it contains 25% of the worlds prisoners. Now that's what you call a police state.
Lol. That is becasue we actually punish our criminals here. It is not like Europe where they are protected and subsidized.
Lol. That is becasue we actually punish our criminals here. It is not like Europe where they are protected and subsidized.
We punish criminals here, which is why we don't like court cases disrupted and the law prejudiced by some idiot running around court buidings and precincts shouting peadophile at people in front of Jurors.
Cases can easily collapse if the defence raises an objection, as everyone has the right to a fair trial and the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty without such interference.
As for Judge Marson, he could have sentenced Robinson the full two year sentence but chose not to, it also should be noted that Robinson was only found in contept of court rather than conspiring to pervert the course of justice, which is a much more serious offence relating to obstructing justice.
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We punish criminals here, which is why we don't like court cases disrupted and the law prejudiced by some idiot running around court buidings and precincts shouting peadophile at people in front of Jurors.
Cases can easily collapse if the defence raises an objection, as everyone has the right to a fair trial and the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty without such interference.
As for Judge Marson, he could have sentenced Robinson the full two year sentence but chose not to, it also should be noted that Robinson was only found in contept of court rather than conspiring to pervert the course of justice, which is a much more serious offence relating to obstructing justice.
Lol. It has been admitted that numerous people, including law enforcement, knew about the Rotterdam rape gang and let it go on because they were afraid of being called racist. That is not in question.
You let your girls be raped.
This is the future of your country, and you have no business telling us that we are wrong for incarcerating our criminals, because no, you don't. Not until they rape hundreds of little girls, anyway.
The mayor of your allegedly great city of London openly says that terrorism is just something that you are going to have to accept.
Shameful. And you want us to act the same way? No thanks.
Lol. It has been admitted that numerous people, including law enforcement, knew about the Rotterdam rape gang and let it go on because they were afraid of being called racist. That is not in question.
You let your girls be raped.
This is the future of your country, and you have no business telling us that we are wrong for incarcerating our criminals, because no, you don't. Not until they rape hundreds of little girls, anyway.
The mayor of your allegedly great city of London openly says that terrorism is just something that you are going to have to accept.
Shameful. And you want us to act the same way? No thanks.
The Rotterdam rape gang.
I think you mean Rotherham.
The abused in Rotherham were in local authority care council care.
The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) and the National Crime Agency both opened inquiries, the latter is also still investigating in relatiuon to Operation Stovewood.
The Government appointed Louise Casey to conduct an inspection of Rotherham Council. The report was published in January 2015, the Casey report concluded that the council had a bullying, sexist culture of covering up information and silencing whistleblowers, and was "not fit for purpose"
The senior offices at Rotherham Council and Social Services all resigned following the Jay report in 2013, and the Government put the council in to special measures and sent in a Government task force to run it. The Social Services Department has now been improved tro a level where it has a rating of 'Good' by The Office for Standards in Education, Children's Services and Skills (OFSTED), whilst the Care Quality Commission also reviwed all services.
The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has already reveiwed many of the police cases and is still to find any misconduct, however the investigation is still on-going.
There were a number of rccomendations at the time including more police resources and police trained in Child Sexual Expoitation (CSE), and the setting up of joint police and social services units. Child Sexual Explitation is now very high up in the list of police priorities alongside terrorism and organised crime.
On a national level the National Crime Agency has set up specialist units and works closely with Scotland Yard's Child Abuse Investigation Team, and there are now numerous local and regional police teams who work closely with councils, social services and education services, as well as a number of NGO's such as the NSPCC, Barnardos, the NWG Network etc.
There has been massive change since 2013 and Rotherham and in relation to organised crime involvement in human trafficking.
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Good grief another ridiculously dumb thread about the UK, thank god for BNW and his/her fabulous posts, are people really stupid enough to believe some of this far right sh*t? This fella is not in jail for his beliefs, he is in jail because he broke the law! Simples. Any far right Neo Nazi racist is allowed to march down the street with racist placards if they want, just as any fundamentalist Burkha wearing Muslim is allowed to march down the street with their own homophobic placards if they want, its a free country and you can 'believe' what you like - AS LONG AS YOU DON'T BREAK THE LAW, THE LAW IS THERE TO PROTECT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE REASONABLE, MODERATELY THINKING PEOPLE LIVING THEIR PEACEFUL LIVES.
How much you want to wager that if Tommy was a Muslim with the exact same rap sheet doing the exact same thing outside the exact same courthouse that he WOULD NOT have been arrested by police for 'breaking the law'? I'll bet you a million dollars that these same cops would've most likely gently directed Tommy the Muslim to move along rather than immediate arrest him the way they did Tommy the Englishman.
THIS is what pisses me off the most. That certain groups of people often have much, MUCH more leeway in what they can say and do before they face any sort of reprecussions compared to other groups of people. Same damn crap is happening where I live in Canada and its simply NOT RIGHT. Everyone should be treated equally in this regard and this usually isn't the case because how high the threshold before you get into trouble and face punished/reprecussions often depends on which race/ethnicity you belong to.
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Originally Posted by albion
You do realise don't you, that although the United States has only 5% of the worlds population, it contains 25% of the worlds prisoners. Now that's what you call a police state.
How can you be disingenuous and NOT mention that although blacks and hispanics make up only about 30% of America's population they make up TWO THIRDS of immates in US prisons? Namely its NOT white Americans who are the most violent and criminal in the US and that in the absence of those minority groups, the US crime rate would be dramatically lower and not too much higher than many other western nation's crime rates, while the number of imprisoned would also be massively lower.
How much you want to wager that if Tommy was a Muslim with the exact same rap sheet doing the exact same thing outside the exact same courthouse that he WOULD NOT have been arrested by police for 'breaking the law'? I'll bet you a million dollars that these same cops would've most likely gently directed Tommy the Muslim to move along rather than immediate arrest him the way they did Tommy the Englishman.
THIS is what pisses me off the most. That certain groups of people often have much, MUCH more leeway in what they can say and do before they face any sort of reprecussions compared to other groups of people. Same damn crap is happening where I live in Canada and its simply NOT RIGHT. Everyone should be treated equally in this regard and this usually isn't the case because how high the threshold before you get into trouble and face punished/reprecussions often depends on which race/ethnicity you belong to.
How can you be disingenuous and NOT mention that although blacks and hispanics make up only about 30% of America's population they make up TWO THIRDS of immates in US prisons? Namely its NOT white Americans who are the most violent and criminal in the US and that in the absence of those minority groups, the US crime rate would be dramatically lower and not too much higher than many other western nation's crime rates, while the number of imprisoned would also be massively lower.
Abdullah el-Faisal, a Muslim cleric convicted of soliciting the murder of non-believers and stirring up racial hatred, was jailed for nine years in 2003 at the Old Bailey in London.
British police arrested Abu Izzadeen on charges of inciting terrorism on 2 August 2007. A spokesman for Scotland Yard said the arrest is related to an "on-going inquiry," involving a speech Abu Izzadeen gave in the West Midlands area in 2006. Izzadeen was subsequently sentened to four and a half years at Kingston Crown Court. He was later arrested again and given a further two years in prison for breaching a travel ban.
In terms of Robinson he was continually warned wth regard to contempt and what was contemot was explained numerous times including by Judge Norton at Canterbury just last year, and Robinson was arrested in order to prevent a breach of the peace and in relation to incitement. In terms of contemot Robinson even pleaded guilty at Leeds Crown Court. Contempt of court is just thar contempt of court and the law applies equally to everyone in relation to interfering with the Judtice sysyem and the impartiality of juries.
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Except the photo is of Liverpool Football fans at St George's Hall in Liverpool celebrating their team winning the 2005 European Championship and has nothing to do with Tommy Robinson.
How can you be disingenuous and NOT mention that although blacks and hispanics make up only about 30% of America's population they make up TWO THIRDS of immates in US prisons? Namely its NOT white Americans who are the most violent and criminal in the US and that in the absence of those minority groups, the US crime rate would be dramatically lower and not too much higher than many other western nation's crime rates, while the number of imprisoned would also be massively lower.
Ending the war on drugs would help a lot too. Too many Americans are in jail on drug crimes or crimes related to getting the means to procure more drugs.
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