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View Poll Results: Which state is the most progressive?
North Carolina 116 32.04%
South Carolina 2 0.55%
Tennessee 18 4.97%
Georgia 103 28.45%
Alabama 6 1.66%
Mississippi 9 2.49%
Florida 108 29.83%
Voters: 362. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-09-2020, 12:30 PM
 
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Yep, Florida is basically in the same corral as Louisiana, Alabama and South Carolina. Georgia is now the liberal bastion of the south.
I know that you don't believe that. Orlando, Tampa, and Miami metros aren't conservative type cities. FL gets an asterisk for why it's red (It was already explained on here).
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:04 PM
 
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Nah. I would remove Dallas from that. Maybe replace Fort Worth or even Jacksonville for Dallas.
I feel like Houston is much more conservative than Dallas as well, particularly if you are separating Dallas from Fort Worth.
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:05 PM
 
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I know that you don't believe that. Orlando, Tampa, and Miami metros aren't conservative type cities. FL gets an asterisk for why it's red (It was already explained on here).
It is consistently a red state now. DeSantis will easily get reelected.
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:11 PM
 
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I feel like Houston is much more conservative than Dallas as well, particularly if you are separating Dallas from Fort Worth.
Nothing is conservative about either Dallas or Houston. People must think Dallas is like the TV show from the 80s.
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:14 PM
 
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Virginia is by far the most progressive Southern state, but I think OP didn't include it bc it would have been the runaway winner.

Of the states in the poll, I think it is very tight between GA and NC. Lots of people will probably vote for GA bc it appears to have gone for Biden, and that is fair. On the whole, I think NC may still have a slight edge. NC's democrat governor Roy Cooper won re-election pretty easily, and it looks like a Democrat will be reelected as Attorney General as well. Trump won, but he campaigned much harder in NC, coming ten times, plus six more by Pence. Trump campaigned in GA only three times.

If GA starts consistently going blue I'll change my mind, but to me, I think GA and NC are in the same tier, with NC slightly more progressive on the whole.
Don't forget that David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler could very likely both win their seats.
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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I also should have added in my initial reply that Miami Dade elected its first ever female Mayor—a non Hispanic Democrat to boot and the second most important executive position in the state after the Governor.

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Right on with this bit. People assume that Miami is a "liberal" place, but really it has always been on the edge. It's probably the most conservative big city in this country after Dallas and Oklahoma City.
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Right on with this bit. People assume that Miami is a "liberal" place, but really it has always been on the edge. It's probably the most conservative big city in this country after Dallas and Oklahoma City.
It's a liberal city but slightly (I'll use small l liberal over big L liberal). Now I am also viewing this from a Canadian lens, so an American liberal or traditional democrat is considered right wing worldwide. So in the American context, it is a slightly liberal city but not progressive. I still believe it will become a more liberal city but it will be a very slow and dragged out process.
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:27 PM
 
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Nothing is conservative about either Dallas or Houston. People must think Dallas is like the TV show from the 80s.
I'm going to disagree a bit. While Houston is left leaning, it's fairly moderate overall. For a city of nearly 7 million people it is definitely on the conservative end. For example, the election results for Harris county were pretty much identical to the entire state of Colorado. I realize that Colorado is a "blue state", but it still contains a ton of rural and conservative areas. The Atlanta metro, which most would consider a close peer to Houston, voted substantially more blue than did greater Houston.

It probably doesn't help that the economy of the city is in direct opposition to climate change initiatives...
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:29 PM
 
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I'm going to disagree a bit. While Houston is left leaning, it's fairly moderate overall. For a city of nearly 7 million people it is definitely on the conservative end. For example, the election results for Harris county were pretty much identical to the entire state of Colorado. I realize that Colorado is a "blue state", but it still contains a ton of rural and conservative areas. The Atlanta metro, which most would consider a close peer to Houston, voted substantially more blue than did greater Houston.

It probably doesn't help that the economy of the city is in direct opposition to climate change initiatives...
I was talking about city proper. Metro is irrelevant because all cities have conservative suburbs.

Also, people vote in city elections, not metro elections.
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Old 11-09-2020, 01:39 PM
 
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I was talking about city proper. Metro is irrelevant because all cities have conservative suburbs.

Also, people vote in city elections, not metro elections.
Houston has very big city limits that contain a lot of conservative areas. There are certainly a number of neighborhoods that are heavily left-leaning, but in general the city is more conservative than most large cities. At the city limits level, Dallas is most definitely more liberal than Houston. (DFW vs Greater Houston is tougher to say).
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