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Old 05-22-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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We as a society have a problem. Lack of parenting.
If we look at all the mass shooting,w e blame the gun (usually the AR15).
But when we diagnose the problem, we see the most critical problem was lack of quality parenting this kids deserved.
He is usually social outcast, bullied, on meds, in a single family home, or foster family (cream of the crop)
etc.
Kids arent being taught right from wrong, remorse, quilt, compassion. Nope we reward them over and over or set them in front of a TV or Internet without monitoring anything.
So, what would city data think is the right course of action to empower, yet hold accountable parents..
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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LOL. Theres always this assumption that the golden age of parenting was the prior age, and that all these new parents are doing it wrong.



Yeah no, parenting has been pretty sucky on average for a long long long time.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Belief in violence, authority, obedience, etc. has been a staple of society for a long time. It manifests itself in numerous ways...most notably and deadly...in the form of the State.

Promoting well-being (physical, mental, emotional), non-violence, self-ownership, and personal responsibility to our children and adults alike would be beneficial to the individual and therefore to society.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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And yet another excuse....
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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It's the guns.

Though I am in favor of criminally charging any parent who does not keep their guns under lock and key in the family home when they have children under 21, when those under 21 children use those guns in a crime.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:20 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Guns are okay IF they are to be used for hunting and they are kept under lock and key.

But you combine easy access to guns with bad parenting and you invite disaster. It's been a long time since most kids were given a sense of responsibility, rules to obey, boundaries to stay within, and not be spoiled with mountains of toys, awards for losing or being "special" and all the rest of the nonsense. Parents need to return to teaching their kids how to cope. Yes, sometimes you lose, yes, sometimes people bully you or make you feel bad in other ways. No one is teaching these kids how to deal with it. So no wonder they grab a gun.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:21 PM
 
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Is it "lack" of parenting or "over" parenting???

How parents create narcissistic children
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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Guns are okay IF they are to be used for hunting and they are kept under lock and key.

But you combine easy access to guns with bad parenting and you invite disaster. It's been a long time since most kids were given a sense of responsibility, rules to obey, boundaries to stay within, and not be spoiled with mountains of toys, awards for losing or being "special" and all the rest of the nonsense. Parents need to return to teaching their kids how to cope. Yes, sometimes you lose, yes, sometimes people bully you or make you feel bad in other ways. No one is teaching these kids how to deal with it. So no wonder they grab a gun.
Kids today think that no one should/will ever say anything mean to them. They are raised in a bubble, so if someone does say something, they can't handle it. Some react aggressively. When I was a kid, we accepted that not everyone would like us. Now they can't handle it.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:28 PM
 
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Guns are okay IF they are to be used for hunting and they are kept under lock and key.

But you combine easy access to guns with bad parenting and you invite disaster. It's been a long time since most kids were given a sense of responsibility, rules to obey, boundaries to stay within, and not be spoiled with mountains of toys, awards for losing or being "special" and all the rest of the nonsense. Parents need to return to teaching their kids how to cope. Yes, sometimes you lose, yes, sometimes people bully you or make you feel bad in other ways. No one is teaching these kids how to deal with it. So no wonder they grab a gun.
We grew up with hunting rifles readily accessible from around age 8 on. We didn't shoot anyone. Kids today are just not taught about guns.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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LOL. Theres always this assumption that the golden age of parenting was the prior age, and that all these new parents are doing it wrong.



Yeah no, parenting has been pretty sucky on average for a long long long time.
It's not that they are doing it wrong, it's that the kids are absolutely not getting the same kind of quality attention, time, or discipline that kids used to receive. Of course, many things have changed over the years, and parenting had to change right along with it. But for the most part, children did receive much more guidance and attention from their parents in prior years, mainly because of the way families were structured back then. And although times may have changed, the needs of children have not.

Now, is there an easy solution for this? No, I don't think so. And please, before anyone throws the usual nonsense out there, let me go ahead and say that no, I don't think "the little woman" should be stuck back at home tending to the kids and cooking dinner. What I do think needs to happen is parents need to take more time in planning their schedules in order to maximize the time they have with their children. And that goes for both mom and dad.
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