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Old 07-12-2018, 08:22 PM
 
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Then why were right wingers so tore up over the Huckabee Sanders girl being told to hit the bricks at that Red Rooster Buffet that night? If they think anybody should have the right to deny service to whomever they please... why did the restaurant become a non-stop target from the right wingers for threats and harassment? Be careful what you wish for Caucasian right wingers. You are soon to be the minority and your words can come back to haunt you.

You already lost the last election by 3 million votes. 2018 and 2020 are shaping up to be pretty disastrous for your party. Even Roy Moore lost in Alabama.
The restaurant owner was well within their rights to refuse service to Sanders. Im not a right winger so its pointless if you were directing your other comments at me.
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Boston
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if you can turn someone away for wearing a hat, why not be able to turn someone away for any reason
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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So what.

Ron Paul has been spewing the same sorts of nonsense for decades; first in his "Ron Paul Freedom Report", then in his "Ron Paul Political Report", & finally in his "Ron Paul Survival Report".

How is what either one of what you guys assert any different from the decades-long nonsensical spewings of Ron Paul & the more recent nonsensical spewings of SD legislator Michael Clark?

Granted, there is the general irony of anti-government folks who are working for the government factor.

& the irony of anti-American government folks preaching about the 'honor' of secession in front of Confederate flags for an audience of anti-American government however pro-Confederate (& literally for decades).

Then there's the fact that Mr. Paul uses 'plausible deniability' to deny whatever is politically inconvenient. I guess you 2 guys may not have that luxury.

Oh & people are not property.

& properties are not people.

A piece of property, including the legal fictive corporations or various business property appellations do not magically become people. No matter how much you pout or whine about it. People are people. Magical thinking is magical thinking, including Free Market fundamentalist magical thinking.
Im not Ron Paul but if I see him on C-D I'll direct him to your comments.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:02 PM
 
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The people and buildings exist, but the right to rule is imaginary. Government supposedly is the group with the right to rule...
& this is like the sophistical argument re: the so-called legitimacy of voluntary slave contracts i.e. apart from its involuntary nature, slavery is alright.

It's circular & nonsensical.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:11 PM
 
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slavery is a lack of consent to a labor arrangement. Public accomodation laws dictate to a business owner who they must serve. The analogy isn't ridiculous at all.
And how far do you want to carry that nonsense? Can Comcast start refusing to provide cable TV to people with spanish surnames? Should a doctor be allowed to refuse to treat jews? Should a car rental company be able to refuse to rent cars to blacks?

The entire premise of your argument is patently absurd, and it's clearly not slavery because no one is forcing you to serve anyone, you have the choice to close your business.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:12 PM
 
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if you can turn someone away for wearing a hat, why not be able to turn someone away for any reason
Turn someone away for wearing a hat? What in the world
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:17 PM
 
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slavery is a lack of consent to a labor arrangement. Public accomodation laws dictate to a business owner who they must serve. The analogy isn't ridiculous at all.
Race-based antebellum Confederate state slavery was "a lack of consent to a labor arrangement".

The Confederate States defended, & sought to preserve & expand their 'peculiar' institution.

It took nearly a century to convince business owners of the ridiculousness of their peculiar notions.
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:58 PM
 
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You know what Somalia doesn’t have? White people.
So, what you are saying is that anarchy only works for White people?
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:03 PM
 
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I stand by this: Anyone who agrees with a business denying service to someone because of their race, skin color and ethnicity, said persons are not fit to hold public office.
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:07 PM
 
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Race-based antebellum Confederate state slavery was "a lack of consent to a labor arrangement".

The Confederate States defended, & sought to preserve & expand their 'peculiar' institution.

It took nearly a century to convince business owners of the ridiculousness of their peculiar notions.
It took force to get rid of such actions. Sometimes, force is the only way to deal with some individuals. It took brute force to our slavery to an end in the USA. It took government force to bring an end to Jim Crow. Sometimes people do what they do because they can.
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