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Old 06-08-2018, 03:05 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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But care is all ready unaffordable. Not just insurance but medical care and drugs too. I dont know what planet you live on but its not here on earth, otherwise known as the real world.
Exactly.

Obamacare may have helped some people, but it royally screwed millions of others with skyrocketing premiums and deductibles.

You can't force insurance companies to cover pre existing conditions without making up that cost somewhere else.

The mandate wasn't enough to cover it, so it came out of our pockets.

Here's a clue Dems:

For many people, high deductible plans are USELESS.

What is the purpose behind forcing people to buy insurance that is so expensive that they can't afford to actually USE it?
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:10 AM
 
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Exactly.

Obamacare may have helped some people, but it royally screwed millions of others with skyrocketing premiums and deductibles.

You can't force insurance companies to cover pre existing conditions without making up that cost somewhere else.

The mandate wasn't enough to cover it, so it came out of our pockets.

Here's a clue Dems:

For many people, high deductible plans are USELESS.
Republicans are the ones that want high deductible plans. And now Republicans want to raise prices on older people exponentially. Obamacare maximizes the cost of an older persons health coverage at 3x of a younger person's coverage. The Republican health plan raised it to 5x. Now they want to take the maximum away completely.

As for pre-existing conditions, everyone will get one sooner or later. And if they lose their job and try to get coverage at the next one - tough luck. What Republicans are doing is working to make health coverage non-existent for many and exorbitantly expensive for older people.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:43 AM
 
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Have you heard of Medicaid?
This is as stupid an answer as I have ever read. Medicaid is for the poor and impoverished. The question is should middle class Americans have to go into bankruptcy for hospital bills and then go on the government dole? Prior to Obamacare and the ending of the preexisting conditions requirement medical and hospital bills were the number one reason people went into bankruptcy. Medicaid is only an option for fools.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:51 AM
 
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Medical bills are still the #1 cause for bankruptcy. Obamacare did not fix that.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:57 AM
 
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For those who idolize the trump thing sooner or later his actions will bite you in the butt,the removal of pre existing conditions is a big one that you wont be able to blame on Obama.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:59 AM
 
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Medical bills are still the #1 cause for bankruptcy. Obamacare did not fix that.
The numbers have plummeted as more people have insurance.
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Old 06-08-2018, 04:08 AM
 
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The numbers have plummeted as more people have insurance.
If you say so. It doesn't make it so but you can say so.
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Old 06-08-2018, 04:08 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Must be one of the first steps in the 'far better than the ACA plan ' the lying con-man said would be in place immediately after he took office.
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Old 06-08-2018, 04:15 AM
 
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If you say so. It doesn't make it so but you can say so.
I am not saying those numbers have disappeared completely, which they have not, but the ACA, has relieve the burden of paying for medical costs for many families.
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Old 06-08-2018, 04:28 AM
 
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What is amazing to me is, Republicans will be cheering and patting themselves on the bag for taking coverage away from older and sicker people. They will applaud that older and sicker people lose their health coverage.
Agree & unfortunately not surprised:



Ron Paul says that's what freedom is all about.

War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.
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