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Because it is not so simple or cut and dried in many cases.
You have balance the cost of many preventatives vs the relatively few (but large) future money savings. Many patients have moved off of current coverage by the time they experience tragedy.
And also balance the inconvenience, risks and pain of preventatives vs the reduction of any future pain, suffering, and/or improved health, family and security. These being difficult to quantify in dollar terms.
Some things are easy like childhood vaccinations. Colonoscopy saved my life.
But look at PSA's. Many routine PSA's are not only useless but can be damaging. Especially if used over the age of 80.
The kind that has monthly premiums and high deductibles. It's not cost-free like Medicaid is for the freeloaders.
And this is what I don’t understand why republicans hate unions so much. They fight for the best pay and the best benefits. Our union pays 100 percent of our healthcare. We just pay a $10 co pay.
And this is what I don’t understand why republicans hate unions so much. They fight for the best pay and the best benefits. Our union pays 100 percent of our healthcare. We just pay a $10 co pay.
Because greedy sociopathic corporatists have very strategically demonized unions and some folks are gullible enough to forfeit the only power that they could ever hope to have in standing up to big business. Americans are being dumbed-down at an astonishing rate.
Germany created a single payer system in the 1880s, 140 years ago before the car was invented, and the UK did it right after being bombed for 5 years in WW2 which left a legacy of thousands of ruined buildings and a mountain of debt. Yet, here we have folks who think America in 2018 dont have the funds to do it. Thats the effectiveness of propaganda.
We WOULD have the funds if we'd just tax regressively like European countries do to generate enough tax revenue to fund it.
To recap the research analysis finding:
"...the progressivity of countries' tax codes is negatively correlated with the amount of redistribution they do. In English: The less progressive the [tax] code, the more progressive the system."
All those countries aren't wrong. If they could tax progressively like the US does and still generate enough tax revenue to fund their social programs including single-payer healthcare, don't you think they would have done so by now?
More research that confirms the above finding:
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"A more recent set of simulations has raised the imagined price once again. Martin Feldstein has estimated the welfare losses from the income tax around 1991. His focus was limited to the tax side, with emphasis on tax-avoidance behavior other than the usually imagined withdrawal of labor and capital. Having an income tax system at all has cost us only 32 cents in welfare for each dollar collected. Expanding the marginal income tax rates by 10 percent would be worse, however, costing $2.06 for each dollar raised. And making the income tax system more progressive would bring a deadweight loss of $3.76 for every dollar of revenue.
...The Welfare-State Style of Taxing: Pro-Growth and Not So Progressive
...In the high-tax high-budget social democracies, the taxation of capital accumulation is actually lighter than the taxation of labor earnings and of leisure-oriented addictive goods."
Much more:
Why the Welfare State Looks Like a Free Lunch (PDF Download Available).
We WOULD have the funds if we'd just tax regressively like European countries do to generate enough tax revenue to fund it.
There is ample room to do both AND strengthen the labor union movement. Implement a federal sales tax and increase income taxes and payroll taxes to pay for a public safety net. After all, payroll taxes in Europe are much higher than in America and if you earn half a million per year, you'll pay far higher income taxes than in America. If you had your way, we would simply go for the Latin American model of a sales tax, weak unions, very low income taxes and a low tax-to-GDP ratio. Then you could look down on a lot of poor people and feel good about yourself, a dream scenario.
Thats just right wing talking points because the right wing is terrified of the American people being inspired by what other countries have achieved for their people.
Not really. The problem is that the left-wing refuses to tax the way those countries do, the way that's needed to fund the social programs other countries have.
Do you have to be reminded yetagain?
"...the progressivity of countries' tax codes is negatively correlated with the amount of redistribution they do."
And this is what I don’t understand why republicans hate unions so much. They fight for the best pay and the best benefits. Our union pays 100 percent of our healthcare. We just pay a $10 co pay.
Public employee or private sector union? And do your union dues cover the cost of your insurance/health care? Or does that have to come out of others' pockets?
People who support coverage of pre-existing conditions don't understand the concept of insurance. It's about risk. Coverage of pre-existing conditions isn't a risk, it's a certainty. Insurance companies are not altruistic endeavors.
This attitude will bring about single payer. I hate government programs and socialism, but the cold attitudes toward people with heart disease, cancer, diabetes etc will bring about a day when the people vote in socialized medicine because they fear death and ruin if they get sick. Health insurance can never work like car insurance, you cannot tell humans to go die because they have cancer. We all know that is not right nor is it moral. Even if insurance does not directly cover these people they still have a right to be treated in ERs. We will pay for thier healthcare in higher healthcare costs due to thier unpaid bills. Unless the law is changed allowing hospitals to refuse service to the poor and uninsured we will continue to pay for them. I’m sure some people support doing just that and really that is the only way for the math to add up to a lower cost. Mathematics says these people must be denied care all together to save money.
A good and acceptable republican plan must cover or offer coverage to everyone, anything less will lead the public to vote in socialism.
Public employee or private sector union? And do your union dues cover the cost of your insurance/health care? Or does that have to come out of others' pockets?
Republicans hate all unions. Thats basically the most hated entity among the donors that fund the GOP campaigns. Unions ensure that workers have more bargaining power, and as you say, you hate it because you are so concerned about the wallets of the capital owner class.
Because greedy sociopathic corporatists have very strategically demonized unions and some folks are gullible enough to forfeit the only power that they could ever hope to have in standing up to big business.
How do you think those unions, or the employers they bully, generate enough funding to cover the costs of the benefits unions demand?
There are a few choices...
1) Raise their prices
2) Employ fewer people
3) Invest some of their capital, which then necessitates a dependence on all corporations being profitable to generate investment account gains via corporate profits/dividends and the subsequent increases in stock values
Any or all 3 strategies could be used to meet union-demanded expenses.
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Americans are being dumbed-down at an astonishing rate.
True. I just illustrated the complete lack of logic in your assertion.
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