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Old 06-26-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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* White supremacists - Nazis - "very fine people"
That's a lie. He said there were probably fine people of both sides, including people who wanted to take a philosophical stand in support of a statue.

* Mexicans are rapists and murderers
That's a lie. He was speaking of SOME of the illegals, namely MS-13.

* NFL players are "sons of ******es"
How is that "racist"? People who disrespect the flag are song of ****s.

* Haitian immigrants have aids
Not familiar with the comment.

* "S!$thole" countries
He's speaking the truth.

* Bans refugees because of their religion
He wants to ban the EXACT SAME Muslim countries that were on OBAMA's list of countries that are kind to terrorists. So that makes Obama a bigot too.

* Puts refugees - babies, toddlers - in cages and refers to them as an "infestation", an "invasion"
That's a lie and selective outrage. Obama did the same thing. Media said nothing. The exact same thing happens to AMERICAN CITIZENS when criminals are jailed. OMG children are separated from their parents. And when parents run off with kids in America we have AMBER ALERTS! The kids need to be separated!

* Ceaselessly promoted birtherism
So what? Is Obama untouchable?

So your points all fail.

Thanks for posting that. Only the clueless actually take statements out of context and run with them. Even though you posted the truth, they still will deny it.
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Old 06-26-2018, 06:32 AM
 
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Fake news.

Antifa pretty much states if you are not with them you are against them.... and they show it with their actions. Another person stated that in history.....


Benito Mussolini declared in speeches across fascist Italy: "O con noi o contro di noi"—You're either with us or against us
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:20 AM
 
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* White supremacists - Nazis - "very fine people"

That's a lie. He said there were probably fine people of both sides, including people who wanted to take a philosophical stand in support of a statue.


**Nope - sorry - you don't get to backpedal for him and "apples to apples" people who are peacefully protesting actual Nazis, actual Nazis who slaughtered a young woman, chanting all their little flaccid "white power chants" with their Tikki torches, en masse as a paramilitary force with shields, rods, lots and lots of guns, protective gear, militarized defense maneuvers against people, only some of whom - were carrying sticks and cans of mace as "both sides to blame" for someone getting murdered and not get called out for it. You don't call those Nazis "very fine people" and not get called out for it - especially when Nazis and KKK are constantly wetting their pants about how they FINALLY have a leader for THEM. Please, joker.


* Mexicans are rapists and murderers

That's a lie. He was speaking of SOME of the illegals, namely MS-13.

**"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
Donald Trump, June 16, 2015 - NO MENTION OF "NAMELY MS-13"

"We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we’re stopping a lot of them — but we’re taking people out of the country. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people. These are animals. And we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It’s crazy." Donald Trump, May 17 2018 - NO MENTION OF "NAMELY MS-13" OR CLARIFICATION THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT MS-13. AT ALL. NOT ONCE. Tweets incessantly about Jimmy Kimmel, and Jimmy Fallon, and poor Roseanne...not this.

* NFL players are "sons of ******es"

How is that "racist"? People who disrespect the flag are song of ****s.

**I never said it was "racist" - YOU said it was racist. I simply pointed it out that while ya'll are triggered about Democrats speaking up against "uncivility" - including your Babyfingers - and flapping your arms around about how Dems are pushing the country over the edge, Babyfingers only knows how to spew hateful rhetoric and foment violence (all sandwiched in between his constant word vomit of lies), and ya'll are like "I LOVE him because he SPEAKS HIS MIND!! *insert swooning and vapors here*

* Haitian immigrants have aids

Not familiar with the comment.

**Wow - can't believe someone who's so "informed" would not be familiar with the comment. Newsflash: he said it during a June 2017 meeting when he claimed that 15,000 Haitians who had travelled to the U.S. "all have AIDS," and said that the 40,000 Nigerians would never "go back to their huts" after seeing the U.S.

* "S!$thole" countries

He's speaking the truth.

** Your country is caging kids in concentration camps on American soil with no plan for them. They don't even know where hundreds - more likely thousands are. This, most especially, includes babies and young girls. I mean ya'll come from the geniuses who supported shooting up an unassuming pizza parlor because it was "Hillary Clinton's pedophilia home-base", but now we have no idea where thousands of young children are - many of whose parents have already been deported without them. It's ironic that we are now - unequivocally - the ""s$thole country".

* Bans refugees because of their religion

He wants to ban the EXACT SAME Muslim countries that were on OBAMA's list of countries that are kind to terrorists. So that makes Obama a bigot too.

* Nope - this is a lie - or as ya'll lovvve to call it "fake news". President Obama DID NOT BAN OR STOP VISA APPLICATIONS ENTIRELY. It was a SINGLE type of visa from a single country - not ALL ENTRY from several countries. This was ONLY to implement stronger screening based upon an incident in which two people got through and went to Kentucky when they otherwise probably shouldn't have. It was a slowdown - NOT a ban - and it was only for Iraqis. Babyfinger's ban was PROMISED to only be for 3 months - and he has REPEATEDLY blabbered that it was a "Muslim ban". Lolol. You people and your "Kool-Aid".

* Puts refugees - babies, toddlers - in cages and refers to them as an "infestation", an "invasion"

That's a lie and selective outrage. Obama did the same thing. Media said nothing. The exact same thing happens to AMERICAN CITIZENS when criminals are jailed. OMG children are separated from their parents. And when parents run off with kids in America we have AMBER ALERTS! The kids need to be separated!

** Obama did NOT to this. This only happened in cases where it was determined that it was unsafe for children to remain with their parents - which was rarely. FAMILIES REMAINED INTACT while they're families were seeking ASYLUM as a LEGAL form of immigration. You know - the "due process" that Babyfingers wants to do away with? Maybe you aren't current on Babyfinger's latest gems - where he has referred to asylum-seekers as "infest(ing) our country" and as an "invasion". Read up, pup. Obama's administration didn't tell parents that their children were being taken to get a "bath" only to never see them again - like Nazis led children away to gas chambers. Really - we're one step away from that.

* Ceaselessly promoted birtherism

So what? Is Obama untouchable?

** This one gets a yuuuuuge LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. This bigots runs his mouth at every turn about the "Muslim Kenyan" for YEARS and trots out every dog whistle he can muster and that's Obama being "untouchable". Gotcha, boss.

So your points all fail.

** Okayyyyyyyy - I hear you. You just keep telling yourself that.
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:21 AM
 
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Liberals Are Pushing The Country To The Edge

And Conservatives fuel the fire, so what's your point?
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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As much as I deride the hypocrisy of the current liberal mindset, I do have liberal friends who are not kooks. As much as we disagree on some issues, we also agree on some as well. They think of me as moderate to right leaning in part because they are not too far out in left field. Where the leftist SJW and adherents of the "Rules For Radicals" crowd think of me as a Attila the Hun.

Thus I am trying to pull back from accusing liberals (at least the ones who are reasoned) of the ills of the leftist radicals who engage in fascist behavior.
For example, most true liberals (especially old school ones) have always been passionate defenders of free speech and freedom of thought.
They are out of the Voltaire mold, and that of the ACLU that will defend the most despicable thought/speech, and have done so with actions, not just words.
[SPECIAL NOTE - An internal memo recently obtained indicates even the ACLU is having the leftist kooks infiltrate the organization and are questioning the wisdom of defending the 1st amendment as they have traditionally]
That is much different than the ones who now wouldn't know Voltaire from Volkswagen, and instead worship at the alter of Political Correctness.

PC is of course the antithesis of freedom of speech/thought, with a mindset of free speech only being ok as long as they agree with it.
Anyone, including brilliant intellectuals, speakers and scholars like Condoleezza Rice are prevented from speaking just because her political ideology is conservative. Not even her being a "twofer" (black & a woman) which normally shields any member (of so called PC protected groups) from criticism keeps the kooks at bay.
Even legit criticism of one in the group is met with accusations of ____ism or ____nist. But again, that only applies to liberals or progressive people, not conservatives.
Aside from the obvious hypocrisy, the protesters who try to prevent other views from being expressed are not true liberals.

Additionally the hardcore SJW types like Antifa, who purport to hate fascists, engage in fascist tactics themselves.
They seem completely oblivious to this, and frankly don't seem to care they engage in what they claim to hate.
Maybe they do not realize what true fascism is, and think it is just whatever is opposite of what they believe in.
Their idea of COEXIST means to only be among like-minded people, with everyone else being not only wrong, but evil & dangerous.

I must run, but hopefully have made my point.


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This deserves to be seen downstream. Great post!
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Old 06-26-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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Watching clips of the rallies is nauseating. Why does Trump cry like a baby and act like a victim? Blaming Obama and the Democrats is getting tired and old. He’s been President long enough to take the blame for his mistakes. He is like a little child, never does anything wrong. What’s wrong with Trump supporters? If a Democrat stood up and blamed Republicans they would get sick of it also.
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Old 06-26-2018, 08:05 AM
 
Location: NC
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"Make no mistake, this mob is not the majority, or even anywhere close to plurality, but history is littered with examples of small, committed and violent gangs of thugs obtaining power through a willingness to do anything to get it. That’s what Democrats are becoming – American Castros, Khmer Rouge, Gestapo, or whatever example you like. These are all different sides of the same “progressive” dice and liberals are gearing up to roll them."

The bolded is a a spot-on description of the Trump and his Base, and how they have hijacked American Values. Yes, there are examples on the left too, I absolutely agree with that, but I think it is hard for any honest, thinking person to give strait-faced, better example than Trump over the past 30 or so months.
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Old 06-26-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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You've got to seriously be kidding me. The alt-right and white nationalist control squat? We literally have State TV - no different than in Russia. That's what Fox is - nothing but. They lovvvvve the white nationalist rhetoric. Eat.It.Up.

Then you have Sinclair Broadcasting Group - a known far-right media empire. They're in a whopping 40% of US households - they own 200 television stations in 100 markets. They will likely be successful in merging with Tribune and will increase to 72% of US households. They literally run propaganda - have you not seen the loops of Trump messaging they force all the stations to run?

And...so it's to be excused when Dylan Roof slaughters a 9 members of a congregation because he had "mental issues" and lived to tell the tale (heck - sheriff even bought him Burger King!), but a sniper who unforgivably slaughtered 5 police officers in Houston (and was killed in the process - no Burger King for him!) was not also a victim of mental illness like Roof?

Good gravy.
You're sick. Fox is part of the big 6 media group who control much of the media. Fox runs on a right wing platform, but at the end of the day like Disney, all they care about is profits. Do you think liberal and conservative media cares about us? Never.

Look here. Their is no room for white supremacy, white nationalism and so forth in this country. America is moving away from the ideology, and good riddance. Trump did allow an outlet for such people to speak, and they have a right to speak. If you don't like it, move along and ignore those people. If such people use violence, they will be punished to the full extent of the law. Women matter, black lives do matter, gays matter, immigrants matter. I agree with that. However "All Lives Matter" and we as a society will need to work together. Yes white nationalism is bad, and to a certain degree the alt-right, so are SJWs, feminists, pro black groups as BLM. Tactics like doxing and swatting are just wrong. Look at the guy who was wrongfully doxed, the professor in Arkansas and your kind demanded him to be fired because it was assumed he was at the Charlottesville protest. You guys nearly ruined an innocent mans life. Another time the SJw left swatted a person because they did not like his rhetoric, instead they called the police on the wrong house, and the person inside was nearly killed. All because of a racial slur online you guys nearly killed someone, and the wrong person at that. SJW, the alt-right, pro blacks, white nationalist, feminists are not saints, but all sinners. Again nothing wrong with being in such groups, tactics like hearting peoples livelihoods, or taking away peoples lives are not good in my book, and not good in the eyes of majority of Americans. I wish we Americans should not be scared of such small cringe groups. I'm surprised such small groups hold a lot of power over so many!
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Old 06-26-2018, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Liberals Are Pushing The Country To The Edge

And Conservatives fuel the fire, so what's your point?
Both are wrong.
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