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Old 06-27-2018, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Exactly. Illegals don't "take" jobs from Americans; they are given jobs by employers who are trying to save on labor costs and regulatory burdens. In all trump's rants, I have yet to hear him talk about the one thing that WILL work:closing down businesses that hire illegal and jailing the employers. E-verify is the place to start. Try a little family separation with these home builders who employ crews of illegals and see how fast the problem goes away.
and another reason why corporations hate Trump so much....Disney is one of them....they fired their American employees and made their fired American employees train foreign workers. I wouldn't give Disney a plug nickle.
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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So, trumpettes are OK with another retreat by Glorious Leader?

If you call being blocked and bullied and challenged in court over everything he tries to do retreat. If you call the backlash for housing detaining in military bases, etc. retreat. If you call lack of resources due to backlash retreat.
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:19 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I guess we would have to have our troops invade somebody to make room.
Yep. Italy, Germany, etc., have been seizing private homes and evicting those on the property to place migrants in those properties, and sometimes forcing home owners to share their homes with the migrants. I guess the left would be fine with that, too, as long as it's not them who are losing their homes or being forced to share their homes.


https://www.thenewamerican.com/world...house-migrants
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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You did that for years throughout the Bush eras. It doesn't work because they get off the bus hop the fence at San Luis or Algodonez to return to the same job some American is enjoying a cost advantage through the employing of them.

What about this nonsense do Americans not understand? As long as Americans keep giving them jobs and paying under the table ….they'll keep coming and no wall will ever stop them.

Walls have been proven to work only in the context they go where there isn't a wall to cross. They'll find a way over your wall the minute they have no other choice. Stop the enticement and benefit for them to do so and the problem goes away without paying a dime for a stupid wall ..ala cold war Berlin.

Wrong! Where the good walls are in place they have been very effective in deterring illegal entry. Are they 100% effective? No, but why does it need to be just as long as it curtails illegal entry by a large percentage? The 700 mile long wall along the most porous areas of our border already approved by congress in 2006 needs to be completed. That will force them to try and enter at more difficult and dangerous places so fewer will try and fewer will succeed. The Border Patrol can focus their efforts in those areas.


They aren't all coming here for jobs either. Birthright citizenship for their kids and benefits bring them here also. Criminals and terrorists certainly aren't looking or work, thus the wall.
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:55 PM
 
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It is remarkable that so many of us do not understand the wall will not stop people seeking work.

Jailing or seizing the assets of employers, IMO, would be quicker and cheaper. But then consumers may have to pay more for products and services.

Yes, the wall would be a deterrant to anyone trying to enter our country illegally. I have posted links many times proving that the good walls do work.


You actually think that the employers who hire illegal aliens pass any savings onto the consumer? They merely pocket the profits from their cheap, illegal workers. You think you're saving money by them being here? Well factor in the over $113 million a year that illegals cost us and they are no bargain in any way shape or form.


It has to be proven that an employer has "knowingly" hired illegal aliens. Many illegals produce such authentic looking fake documents to gain employment that they fool the employers. Not saying that's always the case though. With e-verify in place that would put an end to much of it.
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:00 PM
 
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So, trumpettes are OK with another retreat by Glorious Leader?
Did you forget the federal judge ruling? You think this is over? I wonder how many more times I am going to hear your whining about immigration, especially if you think that Trump is losing...
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