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Yet abortion is legal. These parents didn't get an abortion. So that argument is pointless. They obviously didn't know ahead of time that they didn't want the abortion or that they would be horrible parents.
So because some women who don't want or can't care for children don't have an abortion that means that there is no sense in making abortion available to other women? That is some of the most tortured logic I've read here.
We already know the baby won't survive either way. That's what it's about. Getting rid of a baby. I guess you are all about the woman?
With the millions of abortions performed each year, the percentage of women doing so due to their health or the fact that the baby is deformed is small in comparison.
The lie that every woman getting an abortion due to her health or the baby's health is done so to guilt the public into to becoming apathetic about abortion or at the very least to cause them to feel like a heel for speaking out about it.
These are little bodies of children being destroyed intentionally. Lives lost. Dogs are treated better.
Then those who are pro abortion attack the pro lifers who speak out about it as if we are wrong for doing so.
Cute little babies are not aborted, killing a baby is murder. We are talking about a fetus that is not viable, can't think, can't feel pain and is incapable of living outside of the body of its host.
Cute little babies are not aborted, killing a baby is murder. We are talking about a fetus that is not viable, can't think, can't feel pain and is incapable of living outside of the body of its host.
I've seen some pictures of fetuses that are very cute. And at various stages in their development they have various states of pain perception and overall awareness. You can't hear them scream but that doesn't mean they're not real. I am pro abortion so in my opinion you can and should abort all you want but don't try to weasel your way out of any moral inconveniences behind what you're doing.
I've seen some pictures of fetuses that are very cute. And at various stages in their development they have various states of pain perception and overall awareness. You can't hear them scream but that doesn't mean they're not real. I am pro abortion so in my opinion you can and should abort all you want but don't try to weasel your way out of any moral inconveniences behind what you're doing.
Yet you want the right too tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body.
Your point is? Again, abortions were not illegal pre Roe nationwide and, even where they were illegal, you can still estimate how many were occuring illegally. In any event, as I wrote, it is commonsensical to argue that the number of abortions increased when it became legal (nationwide), easier, and safer to obtain one post Roe.
Given that overturning Roe would not ban abortion nationwide (and those few states that would completely ban abortion will remain GOP friendly regardless), I can't foresee major backlash against the GOP
Common sense would say that numbers just got transferred from the illegal column (for which the total was never really known) to the legal column.
This is all very interesting to me because my abortion, years ago, took place at University Hospital in Columbus right down the street from this clinic. I've told the story before, but in summary, I terminated my pregnancy at 21 weeks after a prenatal ultrasound and amniocentesis that confirmed nonviability due to profound fetal defect. University Hospital was the best possible environment for such a procedure. I was admitted without fuss just like every other patient, so there were no protestors yelling or waving signs in my face, and I received wonderful care from a compassionate and highly-trained staff during one of the saddest times in my life. After I went home, I received follow-up from both my medical team and the pastoral team (at my request). I truly wish that all women who abort could have a similar experience and not be subjected to the nonsense that goes on outside most clinics on a daily basis. Abortion is an issue that I continue to struggle with because I don't fit nearly into either side. I know how deeply painful it can be to terminate pregnancy and all the guilt and feelings of failure that come with such a decision, but I also know that sometimes it is the most appropriate choice. I've written this many times before, and I'll repeat it again now: I have no regrets, only sadness. Abortion isn't going anywhere, and we can either make it safe and accessible, or we can force women into the shadows to pursue more dangerous options. I'd rather choose the former.
No one claims that. But fewer abortion clinics do mean fewer abortions as not everyone is eager to break the law if abortion is outlawed or take unnecessary risk if they are just difficult to come by.
Fewer abortion clinics likely means substantially more births funded by state Medicaid. Most states are already over the 50% mark.
It takes a male and female engaging in unprotected sex to produce a baby.
This is all very interesting to me because my abortion, years ago, took place at University Hospital in Columbus right down the street from this clinic. I've told the story before, but in summary, I terminated my pregnancy at 21 weeks after a prenatal ultrasound and amniocentesis that confirmed nonviability due to profound fetal defect. University Hospital was the best possible environment for such a procedure. I was admitted without fuss just like every other patient, so there were no protestors yelling or waving signs in my face, and I received wonderful care from a compassionate and highly-trained staff during one of the saddest times in my life. After I went home, I received follow-up from both my medical team and the pastoral team (at my request). I truly wish that all women who abort could have a similar experience and not be subjected to the nonsense that goes on outside most clinics on a daily basis. Abortion is an issue that I continue to struggle with because I don't fit nearly into either side. I know how deeply painful it can be to terminate pregnancy and all the guilt and feelings of failure that come with such a decision, but I also know that sometimes it is the most appropriate choice. I've written this many times before, and I'll repeat it again now: I have no regrets, only sadness. Abortion isn't going anywhere, and we can either make it safe and accessible, or we can force women into the shadows to pursue more dangerous options. I'd rather choose the former.
I am pro choice. Having said this I do not understand late term abortion at whim, independent of a medical condition. Most abortions occur well before the fetus is viable.
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