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Old 07-05-2018, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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He's not -- it's the only time you have listened.

Please don't make this like it is something new just because you have discovered it -- lol.

Trade tariffs have been a part of every administration since as long as I can remember.

Soft wood, dairy, wheat, cars, etc......

Nothing new here -- nothing new at all.
Good. Please tell that to CNN, NBC, NYT, WAPO and some of the other left-wing sounding boards. They don't seem to be aware of those facts. Of course-none have ever cared about facts so that's nothing new here-nothing new at all.
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Old 07-05-2018, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Boston
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none of our past President's had the backbone Trump has.
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Old 07-05-2018, 08:28 PM
 
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none of our past President's had the backbone Trump has.
Guess you didn't read the article I posted about Obama placing an even bigger tariff on China.
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Old 07-05-2018, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Gov't needs to reduce spending and the people should wean themselves off gov't dependency too. Why is it that gov't thinks that we can afford for them to keep digging deeper into our pockets.
That's funny as hell. The Trump tax bill didn't do anything for the poor, it benefited corporations and the very wealthy 1% and you want to talk about the poor should fix the problem of the debt?

Maybe corporations should have done something to help people get off of "government dependency", you know stuff like creating new jobs, investing in job training, and giving their employees pay raises rather than dumping 443.6 billion of their Trump tax windfall into stock buybacks this quarter dontcha think?
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Old 07-05-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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Not exactly. Tariffs are usually negotiated by experienced professionals, not dictated by a President who has no idea what he's doing. And I have no idea what tariffs are "baked in the cake", the only one that comes to mind is Canada's high tariff on milk imports. But can you blame them for refusing to lift that tariff? Unlike the US Canada values their dairy farmers and protect them from being put out of business by the mega dairy farms that overproduce every single year in an effort to completely obliterate our small dairy farmers, and if they could they would take out all the Canadian dairy farms too. And Walmart just did a lot more damage to our small farms that Canada ever did, they are opening their own milk production plant and farmers have already had to start selling their stock because they no longer have a buyer for their dairy products
Canada does not have a tariff on USA milk, with one exception. If the USA wants to dump heavily subsidized milk in Canada, milk that Canada does not need or want, then a 270% tariff is charged. As long as the USA does not attempt to over supply milk to Canada, there is no tariff.
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Old 07-05-2018, 08:56 PM
 
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Canada does not have a tariff on USA milk, with one exception. If the USA wants to dump heavily subsidized milk in Canada, milk that Canada does not need or want, then a 270% tariff is charged. As long as the USA does not attempt to over supply milk to Canada, there is no tariff.
That's correct and I'm sorry I explained it so poorly and didn't point out that the tariff only applies when Canada does not need the milk, I assumed that their dairy supply was always adequate without it, my bad

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Old 07-05-2018, 09:08 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Except the largest part of the Wall Street is held by the workers and unions in the forms of their pensions and retirement investments.

Face the reality just for once, would you please?
Then explain the fact that 85% of the stock market is owned by the upper 10% of the population. This would appear to mean that those retirement accounts are not too robust for the bottom 90%.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:17 PM
 
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Canada does not have a tariff on USA milk, with one exception. If the USA wants to dump heavily subsidized milk in Canada, milk that Canada does not need or want, then a 270% tariff is charged. As long as the USA does not attempt to over supply milk to Canada, there is no tariff.
Which they have to do because milk is heavily subsidized in the US. Not sure why Americans wouldn't support tariffs on American milk. I sure don't want my tax dollars being used to buy milk for Canadians.

Every president has lifted or added tariffs. None of them have been dumb enough to take it towards trade war level.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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Without exception, the news sources on which I generally rely ripped Obama for his foolish tire tariffs in 2009 and Bush II for his equally foolish steel tariffs. Maybe it seems more prevelent with Trump because he is implementing materially more ill-advised tariffs than past Presidents. Or maybe it’s because you’re personally invested in the Trump cult of personality and thus are much more sensitive to the media’s opinions.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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Canada does not have a tariff on USA milk, with one exception. If the USA wants to dump heavily subsidized milk in Canada, milk that Canada does not need or want, then a 270% tariff is charged. As long as the USA does not attempt to over supply milk to Canada, there is no tariff.
Exactly AND even with the large tariff on amounts that exceed the agreed upon level --- there is a surplus with dairy trade.
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