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Old 07-06-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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what exactly is wrong with the term and how is it specifically relevant to trump's speech 30years after it's use?
If this is such a big deal to liberals that they huff and puff about it, it is because they've got nothing else. It's ridiculous which is why it has no effect.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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If this is such a big deal ......

you avoided the question.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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Trump's comments should be condemned by everyone. True heroes and not a phony and fraudulent one like Trump. But Trump will not be condemned because we live in a small and diminishing society where mockery, is considered by a great many, is to be praised and not condemned.
There is no civility in the age of Trump. Only bile.
Trump under fire for criticizing ailing 94-year-old George HW Bush | Daily Mail Online
Yes, "bile" is exactly right. It makes sense that he didn't understand the "points of light" - it was about compassion, something alien to Trump.

And, yes, it's even worse how many people don't mind that kind of mean, petty, heartless nastiness that Trump spews.

Of course, the thing to keep in mind is that Trump is in his 70s himself, and likely in worse physical shape than either of them. I doubt he's likely to reach his 90s. And Trump isn't lucky enough to have a loving family the way Bush/McCain do. He'd better hold only Ivanka.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:05 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Of all the nonsense, fake outrage stories this week, this is the winner. Trump has nothing to apologize for.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:06 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Yes, "bile" is exactly right.

And, yes, it's even worse how many people don't mind that kind of mean, petty, heartless nastiness that Trump spews.

Of course, the thing to keep in mind is that Trump is in his 70s himself, and likely in worse physical shape than either of them. I doubt he's likely to reach his 90s.

Referencing "A thousand points of lights" is "mean, petty, heartless nastiness"? Go to your safe space snowflake.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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you avoided the question.
I mean the truth all the time not just in this speech. Liberals hate President Trump so much that they only hear what they want to hear. This is a constant drone which becomes ineffective. I am done with this part of it. Trump did not bash an 90 something year old man. He mocked the comment which is flowery speech.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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Don - that is your opinion and your right to disagree - for 8 yrs - I never watched Obama's speeches - State of the Unions ect.. because I couldn't stomach the man. I felt he mocked Americans - he created divisions instead of working with everyone for a common cause - he aligned himself with despicable people and seldom said a word against them. He may have been a good orator but he was a smug human being who didn't care and look out for our best interests - only what made him look good.

So you continue to hate on Trump - but realize Obama's actions and lack of action alienated many of us who have moved on to the Walk Away campaign. We are part of the silent majority and more are joining daily because they are sick of the hypocrisy in the Democratic party and people like yourself that spew such hate. So much for the party of tolerance.
I did not like Obama. I voted against him twice. At the end of the day, I thought his foreign policy was a disaster. However, I never ever got the impression that he was trying to widen divisions. I thought for the most part his speeches went out of their way to be inclusive. The opposite is true of Trump.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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As stated - I had no idea what the reference was and I doubt 99% of Americans do either.
Are you a young person, as in under the age of thirty-five? The phrase "thousand points of light" was a refrain that Bush Sr. returned to over and over again in his campaign and in his presidency. It's probably the phrase most identified with him. He also hates broccoli, but you can be excused if you missed that tidbit.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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Trump did not bash an 90 something year old man. He mocked the comment which is flowery speech.

so, your belief is that trump cherry-picked a 30year old quote to make some unspoken point about using "flowery speech" ( simple metaphors ) and the fact that the phrase is connected to ghw bush is just purely coincidental.






ok.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I Liberals hated him during his presidency.
That's just not true. I have never 'hated' any president until the cheeto.

Nixon and Johnson came close, because I really disliked some of their policies.

Yes, I am a Democrat and a Liberal; always have been.
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