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Old 07-11-2018, 11:23 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Exactly how much should everyone be on the hook for other people’s problems?

Far less than we are on the hook for other countries' problems!
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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Which is why everyone should pay for their own risk.
And when you get struck by a car or discover you have cancer society should just let you die unless you are rich and can cover your medical expenses in cash, correct?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:27 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This happened even before the big deal with Obamacare. Many working couples make too much to apply for benefits, Medicaid ect so split and are eligible.

It is sad but the 2 sides don't ever want to get together and correct things.

And it's still happening while we continue to wait for the far better than the ACA plan Trump promised time after time after time would be in place soon after he took office.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Another ignorant partisan response. "They do not care about anyone other than themselves" selfish, uncaring and just plain ignorant!
Another ignorant, partisan response. Just how much in additional taxes are YOU willing to pay to ensure everyone has taxpayer-funded health care? Serious question.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...yer-system-be/

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Sanders pegs the price tag for his plan at $1.38 trillion per year during the first 10 years. This is based on an analysis by Gerald Friedman, an economist at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst.

However, "there is a great deal of disagreement and controversy" about this number, said Jonathan Oberlander, a health policy and management professor at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.

Kenneth Thorpe, a professor of health policy and management at Emory University, put the cost at $2.4 trillion a year. A team from the Urban Institute put the number at $2.5 trillion a year. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget projected $2.8 trillion a year.
Using $2.2 trillion a year, and assuming 150 million working taxpayers (a WAG) that works out to $14,667 per person in additional taxes. Are you OK with paying that?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Far less than we are on the hook for other countries' problems!
Burdell, there are just some folks you need to ignore because they have no idea what they are talking about "Shifty" is a prime example. Just ignore them. They will go away.

They would not know what common sense was if it hit them with a summer sausage over the side of the head. They would think they were just being offered a free meal. "No Brains no Headaches"

Mark twain once said. “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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If you are talking about insurance then you are paying for other people's problems and they are paying for yours. You buy health insurance hoping that you get more from it than you put in. The alternative is to put $500,000 aside to cover future health issues.
and if some people do not pay anything in, they are guaranteed to get more than they put in.

We are not like Canada or Sweden, we have rapidly growing segment of 3rd world people who will never pull their own weight in a modern society.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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It is sad but the 2 sides don't ever want to get together and correct things.
It is sad, and even more said is that the solution is so simple: the little girl should qualify for some sort of disability support as an individual, regardless of what her parents earn.

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This is exactly what the socialist liberals intended when they designed the welfare system: break up the family, make people dependent on the government, give the government the power to enslave people with taxation based on the redistribution of wealth.
LMAO.

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Both parties need to get together and fix the health insurance fiasco.
Ain't that the truth.

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All things considered, seems to me the most compassionate thing would be to let nature take its course.
I wonder if you'd be saying the same thing if it were your daughter with this syndrome.

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Which is why everyone should pay for their own risk.
You seem to be unacquainted with the concept of insurance.

Or do you mean that no one should have any kind of insurance at all?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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It is sad, and even more said is that the solution is so simple: the little girl should qualify for some sort of disability support as an individual, regardless of what her parents earn.


LMAO.


Ain't that the truth.


I wonder if you'd be saying the same thing if it were your daughter with this syndrome.


You seem to be unacquainted with the concept of insurance.

Or do you mean that no one should have any kind of insurance at all?
Insurance means that you pay for your own risk, not everyone else’s.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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Insurance means that you pay for your own risk, not everyone else’s.
Um, that's not how insurance works. The term you're looking for is "risk pool" and it essentially requires that everyone in the pool pay for the risk of everyone in the pool.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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Another ignorant, partisan response. Just how much in additional taxes are YOU willing to pay to ensure everyone has taxpayer-funded health care? Serious question.

How expensive would a single-payer system be? | PolitiFact



Using $2.2 trillion a year, and assuming 150 million working taxpayers (a WAG) that works out to $14,667 per person in additional taxes. Are you OK with paying that?
Now subtract out addressing the cost side and subtract what employers are paying now. Subtract out the billions we bribe other countries with and then come up with a number. I pay quite a bit already so that is the number compared to what I pay now that I want to see.
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