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Old 07-11-2018, 11:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why do you suppose the Democrats were RESISTing any possible Supreme Court nomination, not only from Trump, but from every Republican president all the way back to Reagan and Clarence Thomas?

The variety between the Republican appointees of the last 40 years is encyclopedic. Yet ALL were fought against by our friends of the southpaw persuasion with an intensity we haven't seen since, well, ever.

And the one thing nearly all have had in common, is that they were determined to interpret and apply the Constitution exactly as the people who wrote and ratified it, intended.

The one thing that's vital to support the liberal agenda of expanding government, taking over more and more authority to "help people", and transferring wealth from people who earned to to others who do nothing for it, is the act of "interpreting" the Constitution in ways different from the ones intended by the authors.

The Constitution was designed to create the Fed govt it describes, and to give that govt powers. And any power the Const didn't explicitly give it, was forbidden to the Fed, though states and lower govts could still exercise it if they wanted.

And among those forbidden powers, was the power to transfer wealth to people who did nothing to earn it, the power to mandate wage levels, the power to restrict guns and other weapons, the power to dictate what private individuals could do with their land and property, etc.

These forbidden powers are the central core of modern liberalism. They could amend the Constitution to give them to the Fed govt, but they know the people would never give them the 3/4 majority of the states' agreement, necessary to amendment for those things.

So their only alternative for enacting their power and keeping it, was to put judges on the Courts who would pretend the Constitution didn't mean what it says, that the Framers somehow meant the Fed to take over the setting of wage levels, restricting guns, buying votes with tax money etc., despite the document's specific prohibitions against its doing those things.

And now, for the first time since FDR put a majority of such dreamy-eyed wishful thinkers on the Federal courts during his four terms as President, we are about to see the Supreme Court finally return to a solid majority of justices who intend to rule according to what the Constitution actually says and means, instead of justices who claim they can find ways around it.

It doesn't even matter which candidate President Trump nominates to the Court, since all of them intend to uphold the text and meaning the Framers intended.

The liberals are screaming as never before. Because for the first time in living memory, they are about to lose their often-majority of justices in the highest court in the land. And thus lose their last bulwark against their agenda being (correctly) declared unconstitutional, one piece at a time.

The Democrats aren't afraid of any particular Trump candidate. They are afraid of the Constitution... and the likelihood of its finally being uphold and enforced.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/amy-con...e-court-picks/

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Old 07-11-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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So what does this say about the Merrick Garland situation?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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I think it depends on which Democrats you talk to. Was listening to some lawyers who lean left and they aren't too worried about the Constitution.

Of course the liberals are screaming -- do you forget how much the conservatives screamed when Obama wanted to nominate someone to SCOTUS.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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So what does this say about the Merrick Garland situation?
Wow. Less than two minutes, and one post, for the liberals to try to change the subject to a Democrat nominee with no particular interest in upholding to the Constitution.

Is this a record?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:51 AM
 
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Wow. Less then two minutes, and one post, for the liberals to try to change the subject to a Democrat nominee with no particular interest in sticking to the Constitution.
Your whole post is premised on the idea that one party blocking a nominee means they fear the Constitution. It stands to reason that the same would be true when a different party blocked a potential nominee.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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Your whole post is premised on the idea that one party blocking a nominee means they fear the Constitution. It stands to reason that the same would be true when a different party blocked a potential nominee.
Debunked in the post before yours.

Nice try.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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LOL, another con who believes their own interpretation of the constitution is the One And Only Correct Interpretation of the constitution.

If there is only 1 "correct" interpretation of the constitution, that means we have no free speech to believe otherwise. Which, of course, violates the first amendment of that very same constitution.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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Debunked in the post before yours.

Nice try.
Apparently, your view is that the situations are different because you subjectively prefer the legal viewpoints of one judge compared to another. Why not just entitle the thread "Democrats hate the Constitution because they disagree with Roboteer's personal views on Constitutional interpretation"? It would be more accurate.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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If there is only 1 "correct" interpretation of the constitution, that means we have no free speech to believe otherwise.
How many people do you hope to persuade that this silly assertion is true?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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Of course the liberals are screaming -- do you forget how much the conservatives screamed when Obama wanted to nominate someone to SCOTUS.
Exactly. Trumplings had to endure 8 years of Obama. Surely most of us rational folks will survive 4 years of Trump.

Some democrats aren't too worried about this pick because Kavanaugh isn't as conservative as some of the other finalists. Amy Coney Barrett is a lot more conservative than Kavanaugh, and many conservatives were privately frustrated that Trump didn't pick her.

It could have been a lot worse for liberals, and Kavanaugh was actually the best case scenario for them, considering the four finalists for SCOTUS.
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