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The Brits were meticulous record keepers, there is a litany of cargo manifests etc. that survived to modern times where a wooden ocean going vessel would not.
This thread is right (down) there with holocaust denial.
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There are lots of Black people in the New World whose ancestors were slaves and I doubt they swam across the ocean. It's possible that not all ships hauling slaves were exactly alike but based on the number of Africans being brought over it's logical that some ships carried primarily slaves.
Don't know much about wooden sailing ships from 400 years ago do you?
Why do you think the USS Constitution (launched 1797) and the USS Constellation (launched 1854) are the only extant early US Navy ships still afloat?
In addition, slavers were multi-purpose vessels and easily altered for type of cargo. One year run a load of slaves from Africa, the next year take rum from the Indies to Europe, the year after a load of goods from England to the colonies.
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How long do you think ships made of wood last? These weren't the top of the line vessels of the day.
Did people just make up the records that show slave ships and their cargo? Did they just make up ads for slaves, mentions of slave ships in memoirs and diaries of the day?
Perhaps you'd like to share some of your research so that we can better understand what led you to your conclusions.
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Don't know much about wooden sailing ships from 400 years ago do you?
And that's out of the how many thousands sailing 400 years ago? And how much of it was left?
One was unearthed recently where the OP claims to be from roughly the same era and parts of Comm. Barney's barge fleet from the War of 1812 near me. Again, not much left.
Has anyone mentioned the Sao Jose ship wretch in this thread, a slave ship that went down with 400 slaves on board? It went down in 1794 and was rediscovered in 2015. There is all kinds of physical evidence of that ship if that what it takes to make the OP a believer.
Natives mixed with blacks and Irish people because there was an understanding of the way those people were treated. It is not unusual that a person can be black and have NDN heritage. Same with an Irish person.
Someone being called "Indian" doesn't mean they didn't have African blood.
Ok, where did you start this research? What have you read? How far have you spread your research out before concluding that "no slave ships" means "historians lied"?
Stop trying to remove a huge part of history that actually happened. Again, you can find a LOT of records of slavery actually happening. It is not incumbent on you finding a piece of a ship.
Slavery STILL happens, to this day. People in Africa are still being sold into slavery. They are being shipped to other countries, to this day. It has never stopped. It stopped in this country because of a war, but it has never actually stopped in total.
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Ok, where did you start this research? What have you read? How far have you spread your research out before concluding that "no slave ships" means "historians lied"?
Stop trying to remove a huge part of history that actually happened. Again, you can find a LOT of records of slavery actually happening. It is not incumbent on you finding a piece of a ship.
Putting history in perspective is not removing it ... I know critical thinking is not allowed as people show that every day, when something like this comes up. It's like it is ingrained into their minds ... 'do not question the official narrative', 'nor let any one else do it either'.
And that's out of the how many thousands sailing 400 years ago? And how much of it was left?
One was unearthed recently where the OP claims to be from roughly the same era and parts of Comm. Barney's barge fleet from the War of 1812 near me. Again, not much left.
Dunno, just remembered the discovery of it from years past and had to look it up. I don't think it was a slave ship, just a ship.
Those you link to were not slave ships either.
People are still looking for Noah's Ark ... without the Ark, the story is considered false. Just saying ...
Dunno, just remembered the discovery of it from years past and had to look it up. I don't think it was a slave ship, just a ship.
Those you link to were not slave ships either.
People are still looking for Noah's Ark ... without the Ark, the story is considered false. Just saying ...
Look back a few dozen posts to my link about the Lord Ligonier disembarking slaves for auction at Annapolis.
Don't know much about wooden sailing ships from 400 years ago do you?
Why do you think the USS Constitution (launched 1797) and the USS Constellation (launched 1854) are the only extant early US Navy ships still afloat?
In addition, slavers were multi-purpose vessels and easily altered for type of cargo. One year run a load of slaves from Africa, the next year take rum from the Indies to Europe, the year after a load of goods from England to the colonies.
The ships were probably sold to other companies and used to transport slaves or other cargo in other parts of the world until they were lost due to sinking and/or sold for scrap.
The ships were probably sold to other companies and used to transport slaves or other cargo in other parts of the world until they were lost due to sinking and/or sold for scrap.
And with wooden boats there wouldn't be much left to scrap. What probably happened is what happened here along the Chesapeake when the Bugeyes, Skipjacks, log canoes and schooners got hogbacked and worm eaten, they were pulled into a secluded bay or inlet and left to rot.
I went crabbing on the Patuxent a couple weeks ago and there was a sunken wooden boat's ribs sticking out of the water where we were.
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