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Old 05-06-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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I was hoping someone else would start this but here I go. It is an underground movement that came to the surface with the Toronto van attack. Seems a lot of men who can't get women are joining these online groups. No, they are not dating sites but ones that encourage misogynistic thought. A young healthy man who can't get a woman? Sounds like a first world problem to me. I'm sure a lot of women, especially those over 60, have the same issue; but they are excluded. I'm sure most do not advocate violence, but even the thoughts are troubling.
Personally I don't know any men who wanted to sleep with women who didn't eventually succeed. Maybe it took some time and effort, but wasn't it worth it?

 
Old 05-06-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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In India and China, and perhaps other parts of the world as well, men outnumber women by the millions.

Also, women often insist that men have some means of providing for them before they will have anything to do with them. This is difficult for some men to achieve.

I don't know about women over 60 not having access to men. I know quite a few women over 60. None of them complain about not being able to get a man. In fact, several have men they want to get rid of.

Years ago, there was a bit of a kerfuffle about women over a certain age have very low chances of "getting a man." Turns out very few even wanted one.

That said, never underestimate the power of women to tame men. IIRC, a great deal of effort was put into getting women to go west and help settle the place.

Men who went west without women as partners didn't build homes, churches, communities. Most just pulled up stakes and wandered on when things got tough.
 
Old 05-06-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I’mit doesn’t occur to these creeps that women just don’t like losers? Pathetic.
 
Old 05-06-2018, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Originally Posted by pvande55 View Post
I was hoping someone else would start this but here I go. It is an underground movement that came to the surface with the Toronto van attack. Seems a lot of men who can't get women are joining these online groups. No, they are not dating sites but ones that encourage misogynistic thought. A young healthy man who can't get a woman? Sounds like a first world problem to me. I'm sure a lot of women, especially those over 60, have the same issue; but they are excluded. I'm sure most do not advocate violence, but even the thoughts are troubling.
Personally I don't know any men who wanted to sleep with women who didn't eventually succeed. Maybe it took some time and effort, but wasn't it worth it?
It actually came to the surface when, in 2014, Elliot Rodger shot his roommates, a bunch of students at Santa Barbara City College, another person at a deli, hit 4 people with his car, and had shootouts with the cops. He made YouTube videos declaring what he was going to do, and wrote an over 100 page manifesto.

In one video
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"he denounces 'all you girls who rejected me' and 'all of you sexually active men.'

'I hate you,' he sneers. 'I hate all of you, and I can't wait to give you exactly what you deserve — utter annihilation.'"
His parents knew, for a very long time, that he had a mental illness, but for some reason did not give him the treatment that he needed.

Santa Barbara killer Elliot Rodger, son of Hollywood director, vowed to 'slaughter' women who rejected him - NY Daily News

Part of his manifesto:

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"I tried to pretend as if I was part of a wealthy family," he wrote about that night. "I should be. That was the life I was meant to live. I WOULD BE!"
He blamed his parents for his lack of wealth.

"If only my damnable mother had married into wealth instead of being selfish," he wrote. She dated wealthy men after her divorce, giving her son hope and prompting him to "pester" her to marry one, he said. "I will always resent my mother for refusing to do this. If not for her sake, she should have done it for mine. Joining a family of great wealth would have truly saved my life. I would have a high enough status to attract beautiful girlfriends and live above all of my enemies."

His father also failed him, he wrote. "If only my failure of a father had made better decisions with his directing career instead wasting his money on that stupid documentary." The documentary -- a film about celebrities' view of God titled "Oh My God" -- plunged his father into debt when Rodger was a teenager and caused him to stop paying child support, according to court papers.
https://www.cnn.com/2014/05/27/justi...lth/index.html

He had decided, at some point, that he was going to win the mega lottery in order to attract girls. He spent hundreds of dollars in AZ on lottery tickets. Of course he never won, which only enraged him further.

He may not have been wealthy, but he sure did lead a privileged life. His mom got him a BMW, she worked to put him in college, his father gave him $500 a month for no reason while he was there...which doesn't sound like a lot, but it's $500 that he didn't earn and he felt he "deserved" more because he "deserved" to be wealthy. He was mentally ill. It is said that he was a highly functioning autistic and some say we can't blame his rampage on autism, but there was a hell of a lot more going on than just autism.

Here is his dad, afterwards, with Barbara Walters. She said that he is the only parent of a mass murderer to speak on television. The dad is doing it because he wants people to understand that we need change in the mental healthy system in our country.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/agony-pete...ry?id=24317702

The 4chan board is filled to the brim with these types of people. They call themselves "autistics" and "normal" people "Chads" and "Stacys" and have a vile hatred towards them. This has been going on for years.

Why does it take the public so long to catch up to this stuff? It's like people don't want to admit that there's a huge mental illness issue in this country.

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Old 05-06-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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To give you an idea of the kind of mindset, here is the incel post that went viral:

I once approached a teenage girl (around 14 years old) by asking her for directions at first. Then I proceeded to ask for her name. She became afraid and started walking away. I followed her, and then she went from walking briskly to running. Her gait was peculiar, because she ran like a newborn fawn, turning around every so often, trying to see if I am still following.

(Now, I want to make clear that I absolutely abhor rape and did not have any intention in that direction, not molestation not any of that.)

She had no reason to be frightened. I wasn't gonna do anything.

But the feeling when you follow a girl and she notices you, and she tries to loose you or picks up the pace. That is kind of a good feeling. You become important to her. You are no longer some random insignificant face in the crowd.

I know it is kind of low-level behaviour. But I do enjoy doing that. I go to another city, look for a girl that is walking by herself and start following her. After a while they notice you. After dark, after sunset it may suffice to just walk in the same general direction as a girl that is walking in front of you. They become paranoid.

I recommend you lonely incels try it some time. Just to make her afraid. If you know your limits and don't actually harass – let alone rape – that girl, it should be harmless psychological fun.


You can Google the poster's name "Classic_Jarvis" + incel to find out more.

More disturbing info about the incel phenomenon:

https://jezebel.com/saint-elliot-rod...him-1825567815

In a nutshell, they have begun referring to Elliot Rodger as a saint.
 
Old 05-06-2018, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Men who rationalize murder because they can't get laid.

Men who stalk 14 year old girls and take pleasure when they are feared.

And the Internet has allowed these loser guys like this to connect with each other to express their hatred.

Fortunately, most men are not like this.
 
Old 05-06-2018, 04:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by AguaDulce View Post
To give you an idea of the kind of mindset, here is the incel post that went viral:

I once approached a teenage girl (around 14 years old) by asking her for directions at first. Then I proceeded to ask for her name. She became afraid and started walking away. I followed her, and then she went from walking briskly to running. Her gait was peculiar, because she ran like a newborn fawn, turning around every so often, trying to see if I am still following.

(Now, I want to make clear that I absolutely abhor rape and did not have any intention in that direction, not molestation not any of that.)

She had no reason to be frightened. I wasn't gonna do anything.

But the feeling when you follow a girl and she notices you, and she tries to loose you or picks up the pace. That is kind of a good feeling. You become important to her. You are no longer some random insignificant face in the crowd.

I know it is kind of low-level behaviour. But I do enjoy doing that. I go to another city, look for a girl that is walking by herself and start following her. After a while they notice you. After dark, after sunset it may suffice to just walk in the same general direction as a girl that is walking in front of you. They become paranoid.

I recommend you lonely incels try it some time. Just to make her afraid. If you know your limits and don't actually harass – let alone rape – that girl, it should be harmless psychological fun.


You can Google the poster's name "Classic_Jarvis" + incel to find out more.

More disturbing info about the incel phenomenon:

https://jezebel.com/saint-elliot-rod...him-1825567815

In a nutshell, they have begun referring to Elliot Rodger as a saint.
Boy! I see an opportunity to send a firestorm up their azzes. Have an attractive woman who looks like a teen lure these "followers without rape intent" who get off on scaring the bejeezus out of young girls, into a dark alley where there are any number of fathers of teen girls waiting with a good selection of hickory baseball bats.

Get enough of these guys on the wrong end of a bat and they'd soon get the message that whining over their inability to attract young girls, and acting out upon that failure, needs a whole 'nuther re-think.

They'd go back to harmlessly sequestering themselves with their X-boxes, porn mags. and shampoo bottles in a hurry.
 
Old 05-06-2018, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Men who went west without women as partners didn't build homes, churches, communities. Most just pulled up stakes and wandered on when things got tough.

That's the way people are naturally. It's the way our ancestors lived, for the first 99% of the existence of our species. Now that we've changed, massive overpopulation and destruction of the environment dooms us.
 
Old 05-06-2018, 05:04 PM
 
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Personally I don't know any men who wanted to sleep with women who didn't eventually succeed. Maybe it took some time and effort, but wasn't it worth it?
Haha, I'm with you. But you should head over to the Relationships board and you'll find plenty of these guys. They claim to be innocent victims of women's venality... but scratch the surface and they are all revealed to be freak shows in their own special ways.
 
Old 05-06-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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Incels also worship that woman who shot people at YouTube. She's a woman so they should hate her but apparently they think she was one of the good ones.

They just like to see misfits and oddballs who feel wronged getting back at society by targeting random people, like terrorists do. It's pretty freaky.
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