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Old 08-08-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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The technical term would be an editorial retraction. The editor removed the content.
A better comparison would be classified ads, not an editorial.

I have yet to see a publisher successfully sued for refusing to publish a classified ad that violated its internal policies.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:20 AM
 
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The technical term would be an editorial retraction. The editor removed the content.


The content still exists on his website. They're not the editor, they don't own the content.

Think of a billboard owner telling you that you can't use their billboard anymore.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:20 AM
 
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Exactly... When on TV... It is called turning the channel or not going to that channel in the first place. On the internet, it is the same. the consumers of the content make their own choices. Just like you choose not to answer the phone or open an e-mail.
And YouTube has no obligation to anyone in a similar fashion. End of story.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It's a business. If you dont like that they theoretically are turning it into LiberalTube according to you, you dont have to use it. You can go find Gab or a similar platform. Convince people to make ConservaTube. Make ConservaTube yourself. So many options.





It is a communication business that has chosen the protection from liability the federal government provides, for the content they provide. Just like the Telephone company or e-mail provider.


Once they start removing or editing content, the user is no longer the publisher and they just the content provider(reporter). They have relinquished the user to the reporter and they have become the publisher of the content with the ability to retract it or edit it.

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Old 08-08-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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It is a communication business that has chosen the protection from liability the federal government provides, for the content they provide. Just like the Telephone company or e-mail provider.


Once they start removing or editing content, the user is no longer the publisher and they just the content provider. They have relinquished the user to the reporter and they have become the publisher of the content with the ability to retract it or edit it.
And a few posts ago I showed a quote from the EFF site about how editing does not automatically make you the publisher under Section 230
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:26 AM
 
Location: My House
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i knew you wouldn't be able to do it.

so sad
Maybe he doesn't work for YouTube and/or isn't privy to all their decisions regarding users.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The content still exists on his website. They're not the editor, they don't own the content.

Think of a billboard owner telling you that you can't use their billboard anymore.





A single bill board is purchased.... It is not open public communications platform.
The billboard falls under the same federal regulations.
You cannot sue the owner of the billboard, you can sue the individual for the libel posted on the billboard, that he purchased.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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Bingo. This is why CNN is pushing for Apple to remove the Infowars App from Itunes. Infowars is now more popular than CNN.


It's backfired spectacularly in the elites faces.
Not really. It's not around for any of them to have to see that crap anymore.

The saddest part of this story is that the insane rantings of Alex Jones are actually popular and that there are people who believe that crap that even he himself does NOT believe.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:32 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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And YouTube has no obligation to anyone in a similar fashion. End of story.



Removing a channel, is different than letting the open public choose what channel.
You are no longer an open public communications platform, You just determined you are the same as CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NYT, WaPO, Buzzfeed, INFOwars. Same as, means competitor.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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It's a business. If you dont like that they theoretically are turning it into LiberalTube according to you, you dont have to use it. You can go find Gab or a similar platform. Convince people to make ConservaTube. Make ConservaTube yourself. So many options.

Funny how this argument changes when the NFL owners say they are going to stop the NFL Kneebenders from showing hate towards America & the Flag during the opening of each game. Last time I checked, the NFL is nothing but a business.


Nobody is being fooled by these hollow attempts to justify the actions of youtube, facebook and twitter. And now Alex Jones has an app that is more popular than CNN's app. That's just a business too.
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