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Old 08-08-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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A book or paper publisher selects the articles that it wants to publish. That's entirely different from social media that lets everyone publish and then selects what people it wants to censor.
Nope. Writing on paper is a version of getting your word out. No company is compelled to let you use their paper.

Websites, social media, etc is a newer version. No company is compelled to let you use theirs.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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It isn't about what Jones and INFOwars has said.
It is ALL ABOUT, what he might say.
You made that up.

You don't know what it's all about, but you want people to think that.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:25 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Educate us.
Get technical....


If Net Neutrality would have passed, not only would Jones social media be removed, his entire website would have been removed.
Again ... Your understanding of net neutrality is incorrect.

The lack of net neutrality potentially will allow an ISP to throttle or severely limit traffic to AJ website.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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A book or paper publisher selects the articles that it wants to publish. That's entirely different from social media that lets everyone publish and then selects what people it wants to censor.
So you admit, they are not just a provider. They edit what they publish.
CDA 230 makes that distinction.
Cannot have it both ways or it is anti-Trust and violating the Communications Act.
The fact it was a concerted ban, with a competing publisher rallying for it to happen(CNN) is the definition of Racketeering.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:28 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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This is all an effort to meddle in the 2018 elections and beyond.
Trump said he was going to crack down on election meddling.....
Watchout Zuck!
I ask again...

Are you for pro business rights? Do you agree the court decision that sided with the bakery?

Are the elections an excuse for your lack of understanding of the terms and topics you failed to use in debate?
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Oooh a new bingo word... deep state!



New?


Is the dirt under the rock that comfortable?
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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So you admit, they are not just a provider. They edit what they publish.
CDA 230 makes that distinction.
Cannot have it both ways or it is anti-Trust and violating the Communications Act.
The fact it was a concerted ban, with a competing publisher rallying for it to happen(CNN) is the definition of Racketeering.

Ugh... Please and the question....
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:33 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They're not editing it, they removed it from their platform. The original is on his website.

They're under no contractual obligation to host his garbage.





That would be an edit... CUT!


Yes they are, or they selectively edit and in no longer is an open public communications platform. They closed the door. It is censored communications and no longer open communications. They can now be held liable for any libel and defamation they now publish. They are no longer just providing it, with the user as the editing publisher.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Removing content from a server doesn't make you a publisher as long as the content itself isn't changed.

{SNIP the emotions}

In an open internet public communications platform it does. You just made it closed to an individual.
Federal government protections under CDA 230 are for everyone. Not the chosen.
They cannot pick and chose. That is up to the consumers. If defamation is committed, the lawsuit is there to be filed, just not against a provider.... The publisher of the content.


Once you start removing and editing content, you become the editing publisher same as the publishers you provided for and lose all protections of an open public communications platform. You effectively closed the door, as a competing publisher, not just the provider.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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Educate us.
Get technical....


If Net Neutrality would have passed, not only would Jones social media be removed, his entire website would have been removed.
Your ignorance on the inner workings of the Internet is only surpassed by the intensity of your feelings on the subject.

I'll quote myself from one of my first posts on this subject, bolding added.

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OK, try this on: The Internet transports user data in discrete chunks called packets, each packet marked with a destination and source. The dedicated hardware (routers) that handle the traffic look at the destination address of each packet and forwards the traffic in the right direction. Your local provider (ISP) will typically not have its own network extend all the way to whatever host you're communicating with, so they set up peer agreements with other ISPs they can reach - in effect agreeing to handle data for each others customers and exchanging routing information. For those addresses outside any peering agreement, your ISP will purchase upstream capacity from a backbone provider. The backbone providers, in turn, have peering agreements with other backbone providers.

This interconnected nature makes the Internet somewhat resilient to outages, but it also means that you don't get to decide who handles your traffic. Your only choice as consumer is the ISP, and for many areas, ISPs have de facto monopolies.

What does all that have to do with NN? Traffic prioritization. Under NN, routers aren't supposed to prioritize packets due their IP addresses or, probably worse, content. Simple as that.

It is like the common carrier law in that respect, and this is a good thing.

Verizon is not allowed to make a deal with Amazon to see to it that traffic to Amazon's webpage takes priority over traffic to Barnes & Noble - or to any new players on the field. Cable TV companies acting as ISPs can't downgrade access to NetFlix - and they'd love to, because NetFlix eats into their PPV revenue. Likewise, the telcos would undoubtedly love to throw a wrench in the works of Skype.

It's maintaining equal access to the marketplace - any libertarian should cheer on NN.
You're welcome.
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