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Old 08-06-2018, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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How many Chicago threads do we need in one day? Are you aware of the search function on C-D?
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:51 PM
 
Location: USA
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Army needs to be deployed to south side Chicago and the southern border. Possibly areas of northern border as well.
Just leave it alone. It will be like that forever. It was like that when Bill, Bush, Obama and now Trump is Pres.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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How many Chicago threads do we need in one day? Are you aware of the search function on C-D?
This is the best one.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:53 PM
 
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What would be necessary to put National Guard on the streets in the tragic city?
Think either governor or president would have to order them in....Governor MIGHT if this keeps up AND it can also help him win reelection.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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What would be necessary to put National Guard on the streets in the tragic city?
Only the Governor or POTUS can call in the National Guard. The NG is sometimes called in by a governor when there is a protracted riot/ civil unrest. The Illinois Governor has declined and said it would exacerbate the situation.

The presence of a NG on every corner in the 5/25 most violent districts would likely result in a pause that refreshes.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:58 PM
 
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The Mayor's answer is to simply dance. Literally. Then brag about it.



https://twitter.com/HappyTraveler48/...71659851177984
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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When I lived in Chicago years ago, handguns were effectively banned in the city. A city resident could buy a handgun (there were a few gun shops out in the burbs), but it was illegal to have it within city limits. So if you were a city resident, you had to come up with some place outside of city limits where you could store your gun.


Then we got Heller & McDonald, which put the First Amendment back into effect, so some of Chicago's laws were now unconstitutional.


Now according to this, you can get a carry permit in Chicago, but first you have to get a state 'firearm owners ID card,' which of course is not free. Then you have to pay a $150 application fee and take a 16 hour training course (also presumably not free). Then your permit is no good in: "schools, public parks and playgrounds, government buildings, all public transit, and any building with a “no gun” sign or sticker clearly visible at the entrance."
Are Chicago's gun laws that strict? An explainer - Chicago Tribune


For the average person going about their day, this makes it impractical to carry. Many in Chicago don't own cars and rely on transit to get anywhere. And if you're driving and take a wrong turn into a park--voila, instant felon.


Here in WA there is no such thing as an FOID card. A gun owner who is not a felon or mentally ill can get a concealed carry permit upon filling out 5 minutes of paperwork. Cost is $55, and it's good for 5 years. Renewal cost is $32. The violent crime rate here is miniscule in comparison to Chicago.
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Why are the gun laws in Chicago keeping everyone safe? It's the most gun controlled city in the USA.
You are misinformed. Only thing that distinguishes Chicago is that guns cannot be legally sold in the city. FBI traces guns and reports 60% come from Indiana: followed by Mississippi and then Wisconsin. 40% are bought in Illinois with substantial trade in Chicago suburbs.

The county bans certain models of automatic rifles.

Hand guns are the weapon of choice in Chicago.

The state allows c/c with a permit as do most states. One needs to take a 16 hour course including live fire to obtain a permit. Seems reasonable to expect people who chose to C/c to have a clue how to handle the gun, no?
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:11 PM
 
Location: USA
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The Mayor's answer is to simply dance. Literally. Then brag about it.



https://twitter.com/HappyTraveler48/...71659851177984
Brilliant Mayor! That's the answer, to dance more
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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When I lived in Chicago years ago, handguns were effectively banned in the city. A city resident could buy a handgun (there were a few gun shops out in the burbs), but it was illegal to have it within city limits. So if you were a city resident, you had to come up with some place outside of city limits where you could store your gun.


Then we got Heller & McDonald, which put the First Amendment back into effect, so some of Chicago's laws were now unconstitutional.


Now according to this, you can get a carry permit in Chicago, but first you have to get a state 'firearm owners ID card,' which of course is not free. Then you have to pay a $150 application fee and take a 16 hour training course (also presumably not free). Then your permit is no good in: "schools, public parks and playgrounds, government buildings, all public transit, and any building with a “no gun” sign or sticker clearly visible at the entrance."
Are Chicago's gun laws that strict? An explainer - Chicago Tribune


For the average person going about their day, this makes it impractical to carry. Many in Chicago don't own cars and rely on transit to get anywhere. And if you're driving and take a wrong turn into a park--voila, instant felon.


Here in WA there is no such thing as an FOID card. A gun owner who is not a felon or mentally ill can get a concealed carry permit upon filling out 5 minutes of paperwork. Cost is $55, and it's good for 5 years. Renewal cost is $32. The violent crime rate here is miniscule in comparison to Chicago.
This was an interesting op-ed piece in the Chicago Tribune that I remembered after reading your post.

How Democrats keep guns in the hands of the rich - Chicago Tribune

It seems that Democratic run states charge so many fees that the poorest can't afford to protect themselves.
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