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Old 08-12-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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A few men work 30 days to build it.
Takes 2 people working 30 years to pay for it.




"American dream" is dreaming of the ultimate rip off.

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Old 08-12-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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He may be an idiot re some issues (soft drinks and guns), but idiots don't create the 13th highest net worth in the world on their own. As an NYC metro resident, can you honestly say that Bloomberg didn't do a decent job running the city?
decent...maybe...good...not


the city started a downward trend with bloomy... delbasio is even worse
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Old 08-12-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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[quote=craigiri;52777867]FDR did equal some of that stuff out.....

I've recently discovered FDR to not be the great President I once thought, only JFK stood up to the banks; by printing currency backed by silver. He then used said currency to pay off our national debt.
As opposed to borrowing from the Fed Res with interest.

"Under orders of the creditor the Federal Reserve System and its private owners on April 5, 1933 President Franklin D. Roosevelt issued Presidential order 6102, which required all Americans to deliver all gold coins, gold bullion, and gold certificates to their local Federal Reserve Bank on or before April 28, 1933.
Any violators would be fined up to $10,000, imprisoned up to ten years, or both for knowingly violating this order. This gold was then offered by the Fed owners to any foreign, non-U.S. citizen, at $35.00 per ounce. Over the entire previous 100 years, gold had remained at a stable value, increasing only from $18.93 per ounce to $20.69 per ounce.
Since then, every U.S. citizen has become an asset of the government, pledged at a specific dollar amount to pay this debt through future taxation. Thus, every American citizen is in debt from birth, and is, for all practical purposes, property of the creditors, the privately owned Federal Reserve System."

https://myvoice2012.wordpress.com/20...deral-reserve/


This is what's killing the American dream, and why families can no longer support themselves w/o both parents working; and why generational wealth is now so difficult to obtain let alone keep.
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Old 08-12-2018, 10:38 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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More on how the unemployed voted and how the Dems rely on their votes...
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"Defeated Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton had 70 percent of her electoral votes coming from states where unemployment is above the 4.9 percent national average, while Trump had 37 percent of his electoral votes coming from states that meet that criteria.

Conversely, Trump received 63 percent of his electoral votes from states with unemployment rates at or below the national average, with Clinton getting 30 percent from such states
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https://www.rollcall.com/news/politi...ump-supporters
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Old 08-12-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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No, that's Dem policy. For example, Food Stamp use growth under Obama: HUGE. Under Trump? Declining.
Ah, so food stamp use increased in the years after the Great Recession?
Amazing. Would have never guessed.....that a complete crash of the economy and the highest unemployment ever would increase those in need...

However, the fact that wage growth is non-existent for a generation would seem to mean that more lower-middle and poor people are being "created". There are jobs, but relatively few that can support a family without some (or a lot of) "dole".....

For example, unless a family of 4 pays over 40K for health care and 24K for schools and 10K for all the rest....that's 74 in yearly taxes...they are effectively on the dole. Someone else is paying.

That someone is, of course, debt and deficit.

Hmmmm.....
"'Enrollment in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, better known as food stamps, fell to 39.6 million in April, the most recent government data show. That’s down from a record 47.8 million in 2012"

So your claim is all of that reduction...which still leaves us at record highs
"as a share of the population it’s just back to where it was as the economy emerged from the longest and deepest downturn since the Great Depression"

happened in the last 18 months or so????

Interesting since numbers started reduction at the end of 2013 and have been slightly (but, as above, not greatly and not good) down since then.

Do you have any more fake facts for us?
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Old 08-12-2018, 11:20 AM
 
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FDR did equal some of that stuff out.....

I've recently discovered FDR to not be the great President I once thought, only JFK stood up to the banks; by printing currency backed by silver. He then used said currency to pay off our national debt.
As opposed to borrowing from the Fed Res with interest.

This is what's killing the American dream, and why families can no longer support themselves w/o both parents working; and why generational wealth is now so difficult to obtain let alone keep.
So, you "discovered" this from some blog somewhere?

There are millions of blogs. I'll have to start discovering stuff myself.......
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Old 08-12-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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A link? Might be worth reading.

Problem with our system is like with extreme socialism sooner or later you run out of other peoples money. With our form of Oligarchial capitalism, the people run out of money.

Oligarchs own everything, including the politcians. The majority of the people have nothing. Just like Europes old Feudal societies.
And in the past, those oligarchs never gave up their power willingly.
Corporations put their men in DC to service them.
There is no way to fight that peacefully.
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Old 08-12-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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Oh gee, another thread about "the end of America as we know it"...

Liberals are the acknowledged leaders in sowing and reaping (for their own purposes) discontent. That's all the previous administration did for 8 years, and Hillary promised more of the same. if the DNC ever puts forth a candidate that is not totally wrapped up in identity politics, they may win.


Note to OP - don't bother with a link
I dont think this a partisan issue. Both parties are beholden to the oligarchs.
Under Trump, the number of corporate and banking lobbyists have only continued to increase.
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Old 08-12-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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decent...maybe...good...not


the city started a downward trend with bloomy... delbasio is even worse
The city started its”’s downward trend when it forced residents to live under the control of land lords and corrupt business officials in the 1800s. Today it is a pillar to the authoritarian nature of capitalism.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Seriously? Read my last several posts in this thread and RETHINK who it is that can't see the forest for the trees... Under-educated plus perpetually poor = guaranteed Dem voter.
Your the same party both of you do the same thing it’s Pete and repeat every four years.. so in all reality neither party can see the forest though the trees, in this case Trump is the president so everything now falls on him. If you can’t see what Trump is doing to this country then I really don’t know what to tell you.
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