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Old 08-09-2018, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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lmao, this isn't horseshoes. You win or you lose. Democrats lost. Finding that silver lining in that is humorous. Good luck in your search for reality.
Really? Democrats lost? Can you point me towards a certified election result? Votes are still being counted. No one has won or lost yet. The vote count remains a moving target at this point.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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skeddy;52748249 lmao, this isn't horseshoes. You win or you lose. Democrats lost. Finding that silver lining in that is humorous. Good luck in your search for reality.

emm74;52751605]Really? Democrats lost? Can you point me towards a certified election result? Votes are still being counted. No one has won or lost yet. The vote count remains a moving target at this point.

^^^
Looked that way to me as well....... checking several "valid" news sources. Could be a runoff election coming it's so close which is required by the state of Ohio.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Nice try but wrong, wrong, and wrong.

Yes, O'Connor PERSONALLY spent more.

https://www.opensecrets.org/races/su...e=2018&id=OH12

But outside groups that supported Balderson and attacked O'Connor spent millions.

https://www.opensecrets.org/races/ou...e=2018&id=OH12

And Balderson spent most of what he had too, leaving him only about 80K more cash on hand. I guess that means he cut his own throat too?

And you are also completely wrong about the issues. O'Connor is more Connor Lamb, not Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. Most Democrats understand that, and understand that individual districts need candidates who reflect their district. And they know it's not just smart politics, it's smart policy too.

One reason you are wrong is that the media-created fantasy that Ocasio Cortez and Bernie Sanders actually represent the Democratic party is also wrong. Tuesday night showed that, and the Democrats are running good candidates all over the country who reflect the districts they are running in. Don't believe the hype.


and the reason O'Connor did so well...he is a moderate.......


he at least has a chance... but if the DNC keeps putting up these extreme leftists... and the people are tired of the extreme left.... the DNC will die if they keep pushing the extreme left (socialists)
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Indeed.

Democrat Logic
  • Spend 10s of millions to flip US House district.
  • Lose Election
  • Say this is plan to take US House.
Has to be seen to be believed.
Are you still talking about Ohio? I've seen numbers where the GOP outspent the Deocrats in this race by a lot.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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and the reason O'Connor did so well...he is a moderate.......


he at least has a chance... but if the DNC keeps putting up these extreme leftists... and the people are tired of the extreme left.... the DNC will die if they keep pushing the extreme left (socialists)
Except of course "the DNC" does not keep putting up extreme leftists. The leftists hate the DNC because they think it's too centrist.
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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and the reason O'Connor did so well...he is a moderate.......


he at least has a chance... but if the DNC keeps putting up these extreme leftists... and the people are tired of the extreme left.... the DNC will die if they keep pushing the extreme left (socialists)
Aside from the fact that the "DNC" is not putting up candidates, it's all local. What works in OH-12 doesn't work in New York City or Seattle. And what you say about fringe candidates is as applicable to the RNC as it is to the DNC. Worse actually. A number of GOP politicians have decided not to run this year declaring that it is impossible for a traditional, moderate conservative to be nominated in today's GOP.
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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A number of GOP politicians have decided not to run this year declaring that it is impossible for a traditional, moderate conservative to be nominated in today's GOP.
And I think they are right -- I just hope that changes soon! I am so tired of having the major parties choosing extremists for candidates. Although I voted for (in order, starting in 1972) McGovern (D), Carter (D), Carter (D), Mondale (D), Dukakis (D), Clinton (D), Clinton (D), Gore (D), Kerry (D), Obama (D), Stein (G) and Johnson (L), I think I would have preferred ANY of the 1972-2000 Republican candidates to ANY of the candidates of any party starting in 2000. (Well, except for Nixon, anyway, and maybe Bush I and Reagan -- although I think even they would have been better than Trump. And, btw, my state went for HRC, so I'm not feeling guilty about voting for Johnson.)

And, to any members of the DNC reading this, please note that you lost at least one Democratic voter when you started pandering to the extreme liberals.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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I can see a silver lining in the Democrats taking back the house in November, they will go off the rails even worse than they did in 2009 setting themselves up for an enormous loss in 2020. 2 years of the Democrats calling for impeachment and the plethora of BS issues they tend to put at the forefront is not a bad thing for the GOP.
Yeah if only we're could go back to birth certificates and Benghazi.

Much better than the NSA director and campaign manager looking at federal and or state prison. At least most of America knew Republicans were full of **** and playing politics. Now we have real investigations that go from nothing burgers to people in jail. Bet when you chanted lock her up you weren't thinking about trump's inner circle.

I doubt trump gets hit in the Russia investigation but that doesn't absolve the rest of his swamp.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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Yeah if only we're could go back to birth certificates and Benghazi.

Much better than the NSA director and campaign manager looking at federal and or state prison. At least most of America knew Republicans were full of **** and playing politics. Now we have real investigations that go from nothing burgers to people in jail. Bet when you chanted lock her up you weren't thinking about trump's inner circle.

I doubt trump gets hit in the Russia investigation but that doesn't absolve the rest of his swamp.
Hard to predict what team Mueller has on Trump, but obstruction of justice evidence is in plain sight.

What slay is hard to predict is who will end up with this seat. Last I read still counting absentee and provisional ballots.

In less than 100 days they will all vote on it again.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Are we back to the "path to 270" again?"
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