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Although the United States Supreme Court ruled (in Gideon v. Wainwright, 1963) that the Sixth Amendment of the Bill of Rights requires the government to provide free legal counsel to indigent defendants in criminal cases, Brazil is the only country where an office of government-paid lawyers, with the specific purpose of providing legal assistance and representation to the destitute, free of charge, is established in the Constitution.
For those of you who don't believe that health care is a right--do you also believe that people who can't afford legal representation should go without?
Last edited by AguaDulce; 08-18-2018 at 08:01 AM..
Reason: clarification
In part because our constitution and bill of rights was put in place to protect from the potential of a tyrannical government abusing its laws and taking freedom from its citizens. Health conditions of a human for the most part are not driven by their government.
You are only given the right to an attorney in specific criminal cases, again, protecting you from the possible over reach of the government.
Additionally, an emergency room is required to treat someone in need until they are in reasonable health.
In part because our constitution and bill of rights was put in place to protect from the potential of a tyrannical government abusing its laws and taking freedom from its citizens. Health conditions of a human for the most part are not driven by their government.
You are only given the right to an attorney in specific criminal cases, again, protecting you from the possible over reach of the government.
Additionally, an emergency room is required to treat someone in need until they are in reasonable health.
Why should my tax dollars go to pay for someone else's legal services? If you can't do the time . . . right?
Why should my tax dollars go to pay for someone else's legal services? If you can't do the time . . . right?
Wrong. Its there to protect you from the goverment being tyrannical and abusing its laws. You don't think anyone has ever been falsely accused of anything? Its a process for preventing systematic abuse and a self check, it is an effort to ensure our legal system is fair. Do actual criminals get to take advantage of it with our tax dollars? Yes, but the exceedingly important part is it protects us with that whole "innocent until proven guilty" part when our government comes after us in a criminal affair.
Everyone has the right to due process whether they can pay or not. If anyone doesn't want to support the very foundation our country is built on---our constitution and bill of rights---then they don't belong in this country. No one is going to agree with every tax penny or dollar spent and don't forget plenty of people get accused of crimes they didn't commit. So your selfish "don't do the crime" reason for not wanting your tax dollars to pay for someone else's legal services doesn't wash.
Everyone has the right to due process whether they can pay or not. If anyone doesn't want to support the very foundation our country is built on---our constitution and bill of rights---then they don't belong in this country. No one is going to agree with every tax penny or dollar spent and don't forget plenty of people get accused of crimes they didn't commit. So your selfish "don't do the crime" reason for not wanting your tax dollars to pay for someone else's legal services doesn't wash.
I'm trying to make a point.
Legal defense is a right. Taxes fund legal counsel for those that can't afford it.
Legal defense is a right. Taxes fund legal counsel for those that can't afford it.
Health care should be the same.
No, seems like you are trying to pick a fight or troll, you have already been told multiple times why you are wrong.
Right to an attorney is to protect you from the government taking unreasonable and unlawful actions against you. Its a simple check and balance to ensure they don't abuse their power, thats part of why we have our Constitution and Bill of Rights, to protect us from government over reach. You don't have a right to an attorney in EVERY instance of appearing in court, only when the government brings certain criminal action against you.
The government has exactly zero to do with your need for health care, therefore they have no obligation to assist or provide for it under our system of law.
The right to legal defense even if one cannot pay for it is a Constitutional right.
In SOME cases, not all. But not disagreeing with your premise, just clarifying.
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