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View Poll Results: Will Trump pardon Manafort and/or Cohen?
Yes, he will pardon Manafort and/or Cohen 27 45.76%
No, he will not pardon Manafort and/or Cohen 32 54.24%
Voters: 59. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-21-2018, 03:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MMS02760 View Post
He will not pardon Cohen. He will pardon Manafort and it will be further proof that Trump has no respect for the rule of US law in that he thinks he and his associates are above it.
My exact thoughts. Manafort has demonstrated “loyalty”, Cohen hasn’t. But Trump only has a limited amount of time to paradon Manafort; his second trial in DC where additional charges may be unsealed, and three times as much evidence exists, starts next month.

 
Old 08-21-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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Poll should have offered choice of pardon both, pardon one or other, or no pardon for either one.

I do think Trump will pardon Manafort -- but not until Trump's last day in office, as he's headed out the exit door, whenever that is.
 
Old 08-21-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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Donald Trump may need to pardon himself.
 
Old 08-21-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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If Trump thinks it will save his hide, keep dreaming, you can bet he will pardon both of them in a heartbeat. Things might get a bit loud.

He absolutely should, given this witch hunt. That's his prerogative and you can't do a thing about it. Who cares how loud you get? Get loud. We'll patiently watch you be the destructive little gremlins that you are. Its nothing new. You've already exhausted the nation on that front. We won't and can't be intimidated by your thugs.
 
Old 08-21-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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If Trump thinks it will save his hide, keep dreaming, you can bet he will pardon both of them in a heartbeat. Things might get a bit loud.
Ridiculous!

 
Old 08-21-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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He will not pardon Cohen. He will pardon Manafort and it will be further proof that Trump has no respect for the rule of US law in that he thinks he and his associates are above it.
Your moral pretensions don't mean a thing on the back of an investigation that was founded on DNC paid-for Kremlin fairy tales.
 
Old 08-21-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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He will not pardon Cohen. He will pardon Manafort and it will be further proof that Trump has no respect for the rule of US law in that he thinks he and his associates are above it.
And if Trump did that...IF he does it, how would it be any different than the hundreds of criminals Obama pardoned?
 
Old 08-21-2018, 04:09 PM
 
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The political repercussions would end his Presidency.
 
Old 08-21-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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Your moral pretensions don't mean a thing on the back of an investigation that was founded on DNC paid-for Kremlin fairy tales.





It seems you are in total denial to reality. If they did not commit any crimes, why are they all pleading or being found guilty?

Cohen: Guilty
Manafort: Guilty
Gates: Guilty
Flynn: Guilty:
Papadopolous: Guilty
Van der Zwaan: Guilty


The noose is getting tighter on Trump. His criminal enterprise is being exposed.
 
Old 08-21-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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Manafort was found guilty of 8 out of 18 charges, and still faces another trial or two.

So Trump has some problems with pardoning him. If he moves too fast, Manafort could still go to trial on the other charges, because a pardon wouldn't pre-exempt him in them. So, facing even more prison time, Manafort could roll over at last before he goes into the second trial.

Meanwhile, Cohen pled guilty to 8 charges, but he didn't escape conviction either. He may have just escaped imprisonment.
So does Trump pardon a guilty man who's still walking the streets?

If Trump pardons either one, will the pardons bring him impeachment? Probably not until the election is over, but that could happen afterwards.
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