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Old 08-24-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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Growing up, one lesson that still sticks with me that my pop and uncles taught me was that you NEVER tell on anyone if you get caught doing something wrong. Even if telling can and will attenuate your consequences, you hold your tongue and take your heat. If your confederates escape punishment, then too bad for you. You take your weight AND theirs if you have to.

Even when we got into trouble in our household, snitching on my siblings that participated was a nono! Even if my Pop or Mom asked if they were involved, we’d lie about it. Of course, my parents knew we were fulla you-know-what, but they admitted to grudging admiration for keeping your tongue.

Trump is a guy that doesn’t inspire loyalty. Some of you Trump supporters would go to jail before Cohen would, and Trump has never given you a dime. But Trump is right...these rats he surrounded himself with enjoyed all the perks when the going was good, but when it all falls apart, they turn into canaries. I don’t respect that. Not one bit.

Of course, I’m enjoying watching all these rats jump ship to torment Trump, but they’re still dirtbags. Once Cohen and other losers sink Trump for good, I wouldn’t care if they dropped dead.

It’s like Linda Tripp with Clinton. Once the Republicans got their use outta her, they dumped her like a bag of garbage. They wouldn’t give her a dime after they got their quarry in the form of Bill Clinton. They never cared about Tripp herself.

Reagan’s or Obama’s guys would’ve never sold their boss down the river like this. Valerie Jarrett or Susan Rice would have to be waterboarded before they’d give up Obama. Even Dubya’s guys were mostly loyal. JFK’s guys (that are still alive) are STILL loyal to his legacy. They won’t say a bad word about him.

Damn Donald...you sure know how to pick’em. Lol
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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Cya.
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:06 PM
 
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Bottom line, bad leaders don't inspire loyalty.

Trump wants to be like Obama and JFK, but no one would ever be loyal to a snake. He found out that people were kissing up to him because they could use him. Once crap hits the fan, you throw the snake to the fire.

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Old 08-24-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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Cya.
Yep. At any cost. Those guys have no balls.
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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There is no honor among thieves.
Trump's cronies are like these two using their buddy as a meat shield:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9dEk2_1535037873
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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There is no honor among thieves.
Trump's cronies are like these two using their buddy as a meat shield:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9dEk2_1535037873
Geez!!
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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Growing up, one lesson that still sticks with me that my pop and uncles taught me was that you NEVER tell on anyone if you get caught doing something wrong. Even if telling can and will attenuate your consequences, you hold your tongue and take your heat. If your confederates escape punishment, then too bad for you. You take your weight AND theirs if you have to.

Even when we got into trouble in our household, snitching on my siblings that participated was a nono! Even if my Pop or Mom asked if they were involved, we’d lie about it. Of course, my parents knew we were fulla you-know-what, but they admitted to grudging admiration for keeping your tongue.

Trump is a guy that doesn’t inspire loyalty. Some of you Trump supporters would go to jail before Cohen would, and Trump has never given you a dime. But Trump is right...these rats he surrounded himself with enjoyed all the perks when the going was good, but when it all falls apart, they turn into canaries. I don’t respect that. Not one bit.

Of course, I’m enjoying watching all these rats jump ship to torment Trump, but they’re still dirtbags. Once Cohen and other losers sink Trump for good, I wouldn’t care if they dropped dead.

It’s like Linda Tripp with Clinton. Once the Republicans got their use outta her, they dumped her like a bag of garbage. They wouldn’t give her a dime after they got their quarry in the form of Bill Clinton. They never cared about Tripp herself.

Reagan’s or Obama’s guys would’ve never sold their boss down the river like this. Valerie Jarrett or Susan Rice would have to be waterboarded before they’d give up Obama. Even Dubya’s guys were mostly loyal. JFK’s guys (that are still alive) are STILL loyal to his legacy. They won’t say a bad word about him.

Damn Donald...you sure know how to pick’em. Lol
Well said.

Trump has to deal with the choices he has made over the years. Whom he surrounded himself with and why those people in particular. They obviously had some characteristics Trump valued at some point, good or bad, and Trump and some characteristics that attracted them. Rottenness attracts flies.

"Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you can control is your character."
Dr. Wayne Dwyer

"The best index to a person's character is how he treats people who can't do him any good, and how he treats people who can't fight back."
Abigail Van Buren
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Growing up, one lesson that still sticks with me that my pop and uncles taught me was that you NEVER tell on anyone if you get caught doing something wrong. Even if telling can and will attenuate your consequences, you hold your tongue and take your heat. If your confederates escape punishment, then too bad for you. You take your weight AND theirs if you have to.

Even when we got into trouble in our household, snitching on my siblings that participated was a nono! Even if my Pop or Mom asked if they were involved, we’d lie about it. Of course, my parents knew we were fulla you-know-what, but they admitted to grudging admiration for keeping your tongue.

Trump is a guy that doesn’t inspire loyalty. Some of you Trump supporters would go to jail before Cohen would, and Trump has never given you a dime. But Trump is right...these rats he surrounded himself with enjoyed all the perks when the going was good, but when it all falls apart, they turn into canaries. I don’t respect that. Not one bit.

Of course, I’m enjoying watching all these rats jump ship to torment Trump, but they’re still dirtbags. Once Cohen and other losers sink Trump for good, I wouldn’t care if they dropped dead.

It’s like Linda Tripp with Clinton. Once the Republicans got their use outta her, they dumped her like a bag of garbage. They wouldn’t give her a dime after they got their quarry in the form of Bill Clinton. They never cared about Tripp herself.

Reagan’s or Obama’s guys would’ve never sold their boss down the river like this. Valerie Jarrett or Susan Rice would have to be waterboarded before they’d give up Obama. Even Dubya’s guys were mostly loyal. JFK’s guys (that are still alive) are STILL loyal to his legacy. They won’t say a bad word about him.

Damn Donald...you sure know how to pick’em. Lol
We are not talking about "pops and uncles" here and a spanking. It's whether you go to prison for your natural life, see your wife and kids prosper, or not. Trump is a piece of human garbage who turns on everyone. He deserves betrayal. Anyway, Cohen says he is doing it for his country. Maybe the rest are too now that they see what a disaster they have unleashed on American democracy.
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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Growing up, one lesson that still sticks with me that my pop and uncles taught me was that you NEVER tell on anyone if you get caught doing something wrong. Even if telling can and will attenuate your consequences, you hold your tongue and take your heat. If your confederates escape punishment, then too bad for you. You take your weight AND theirs if you have to.

Even when we got into trouble in our household, snitching on my siblings that participated was a nono! Even if my Pop or Mom asked if they were involved, we’d lie about it. Of course, my parents knew we were fulla you-know-what, but they admitted to grudging admiration for keeping your tongue.

Trump is a guy that doesn’t inspire loyalty. Some of you Trump supporters would go to jail before Cohen would, and Trump has never given you a dime. But Trump is right...these rats he surrounded himself with enjoyed all the perks when the going was good, but when it all falls apart, they turn into canaries. I don’t respect that. Not one bit.

Of course, I’m enjoying watching all these rats jump ship to torment Trump, but they’re still dirtbags. Once Cohen and other losers sink Trump for good, I wouldn’t care if they dropped dead.

It’s like Linda Tripp with Clinton. Once the Republicans got their use outta her, they dumped her like a bag of garbage. They wouldn’t give her a dime after they got their quarry in the form of Bill Clinton. They never cared about Tripp herself.

Reagan’s or Obama’s guys would’ve never sold their boss down the river like this. Valerie Jarrett or Susan Rice would have to be waterboarded before they’d give up Obama. Even Dubya’s guys were mostly loyal. JFK’s guys (that are still alive) are STILL loyal to his legacy. They won’t say a bad word about him.

Damn Donald...you sure know how to pick’em. Lol
Trump would throw them under the bus just as quickly. Why would he deserve or expect loyalty?
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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The most disturbing aspect of the president's rant about flipping and protection is this: The man who swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the US is in essence saying that he thinks it is or would like it to be illegal to work with the Justice Department. Yikes!

Last edited by corpgypsy; 08-24-2018 at 02:52 PM..
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