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Old 09-05-2018, 06:05 PM
 
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Increased global temperatures will greatly deplete the forests. Droughts will kill many trees. Insect pests that kill trees will expand and move further toward the poles. The same with types of deadly fungus and molds. Wildfires will burn more forest land, as we have seen over recent years. Your suggestion that warming will benefit the forests, is nothing but folly.
It's like people in a drought suddenly get some rain. Everyone celebrates, but it doesn't stop. They ignored the warnings to get to higher ground, or move everyone up the hill. Now they're being swept away by flash flooding.
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Old 09-05-2018, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Some scary news about global warming....

How global warming and mind-eating parasites are creating a global intelligence gap.

https://bigthink.com/ideafeed/thank-...box=1536096531
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Old 09-05-2018, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Oh my, who to believe?
There is no contradiction between the two sources. The one you posted talks about loss of canopy in the tropics, under a misleading headline that says, "our planet lost...". The OP source acknowledges loss in the tropics but claims it has been more than made up for elsewhere, leading to a net gain in forest cover for the planet.
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Old 09-05-2018, 06:40 PM
 
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In a quite laughable ironic twist Leftists connect global warming to purely economic disadvantages not life. "Coastal communities will be under water...blah blah blah". First, I don't care. Any man that builds upon the sand knows the risks. "Fresh water will be depleted". Second, no ****. Any man that builds in a borderline desert, a la LA, either knows the risks or is so grossly ignorant that Darwinism should be aloud to take its course.


While some areas are turning for the worst, many areas are turning for the best. Speaking for my area, not only a bumper crop is well everything, but I've never seen so many deer, pheasant, turkey, ducks, and grouse, like...ever.


Is the globe warming? Maybe, maybe not. If so, so what? Like it has been doing since like forever??? Zoom out a billion years and we are kind of at the bottom of the bell curve for temperature and CO2 levels. A hundred years of data means exceedingly n-o-t-h-i-n-g.


Nature is going to nature. Animals are going to evolve or die. Sure I would have loved to see a wholly rhino but it evolved itself into a niche climate and ultimately died like a billion species before it.


More fires, hurricanes, floods, these are all purely economic shortcomings for man, make no mistake. Ecologically speaking, nothing could be more healthier for the earth. That is fact.
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Old 09-05-2018, 06:41 PM
 
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Some scary news about global warming....

How global warming and mind-eating parasites are creating a global intelligence gap.

https://bigthink.com/ideafeed/thank-...box=1536096531
^^^another misleading headline. A global intelligence gap between North and South already exists, and has existed for a long time. So it isn't being "created" by these parasites, although they might be making it worse.
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:20 PM
 
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There is no contradiction between the two sources. The one you posted talks about loss of canopy in the tropics, under a misleading headline that says, "our planet lost...". The OP source acknowledges loss in the tropics but claims it has been more than made up for elsewhere, leading to a net gain in forest cover for the planet.
So what your saying is:

Current zones that are harsh like deserts can still sustain people but will become inhospitable

Current zones that are known for lush plant life will dry out. Becoming the new deserts.

Zones known for extreme cold will become greener.


Refugees will head for those zones.

Increase in Co2 only sustained those newly green zone for a time but now succumb to the overabundance of Co2, now those new green zones die as swell..
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:49 PM
 
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So what your saying is:

Current zones that are harsh like deserts can still sustain people but will become inhospitable

Current zones that are known for lush plant life will dry out. Becoming the new deserts.

Zones known for extreme cold will become greener.


Refugees will head for those zones.

Increase in Co2 only sustained those newly green zone for a time but now succumb to the overabundance of Co2, now those new green zones die as swell..
Some of that might happen in the future, but no, I don't think global warming is more the a minor factor in the current situation affecting global forest cover. In the tropics, loss of forest is mostly about the population explosion with more people clearing more and more land for farming and other uses. Outside the tropics, forests have come back because population pressures have eased and farming has become much more efficient, requiring less land use.
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Is the globe warming? Maybe, maybe not. If so, so what? Like it has been doing since like forever??? Zoom out a billion years and we are kind of at the bottom of the bell curve for temperature and CO2 levels. A hundred years of data means exceedingly n-o-t-h-i-n-g.

Nature is going to nature. Animals are going to evolve or die. Sure I would have loved to see a wholly rhino but it evolved itself into a niche climate and ultimately died like a billion species before it.
And man has become a dominant force in nature in the past couple hundred years, already causing CO2 levels to nearly double over what they have typically been for as long as Homo Sapiens has been on the planet. We are conducting a giant chemistry experiment, and the chance of a very bad outcome is significant. This is known beyond any doubt. Nothing discredits American conservatives more than their denial of this fact.
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Increased global temperatures will greatly deplete the forests. Droughts will kill many trees. Insect pests that kill trees will expand and move further toward the poles. The same with types of deadly fungus and molds. Wildfires will burn more forest land, as we have seen over recent years. Your suggestion that warming will benefit the forests, is nothing but folly.
Flora has always changed. If you study paleontology you will know this is a true science. Oxygen increases. Animals, especially insects get larger. This has happened uncountable times over 500 million years. Trees get replaced by other trees more adaptable to the current conditions. You could erase all human activity and it's still going to happen. Fossil records show it.
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:46 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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And man has become a dominant force in nature in the past couple hundred years, already causing CO2 levels to nearly double over what they have typically been for as long as Homo Sapiens has been on the planet. We are conducting a giant chemistry experiment, and the chance of a very bad outcome is significant. This is known beyond any doubt. Nothing discredits American conservatives more than their denial of this fact.
The entire land mass of Pangea was on fire at one time yet life still managed to exist. Maybe we need another good extinction event. Weed out the people that can't cut it that rely on Govt and are parasites on the human race? Urban dwellers that think meat comes from a store.
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