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Old 09-10-2018, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I read all the time about people claiming others vote against their own interests. Never met anyone who claimed to do so.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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I read all the time about people claiming others vote against their own interests. Never met anyone who claimed to do so.
I did in the past, hung up on one issue. Not any more.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:52 AM
 
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I do vote for candidates who are supportive of sanctuary cities which is absurd, and not in my interest, but it is not anywhere near as important as the massive corruption and war against the working class that has been ongoing for decades now, so voting against corrupt candidates and voting for pro-worker candidates who dont take corporate money and push for stronger labor rights and a national health care system is far more important.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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I read all the time about people claiming others vote against their own interests. Never met anyone who claimed to do so.
Virtually everybody who votes Democrat.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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Self interest is a matter of individual opinion.
It is not what some Alinsky leftist tells you it is.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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I do vote for candidates who are supportive of sanctuary cities which is absurd, and not in my interest, but it is not anywhere near as important as the massive corruption and war against the working class that has been ongoing for decades now, so voting against corrupt candidates and voting for pro-worker candidates who dont take corporate money and push for stronger labor rights and a national health care system is far more important.
What is this massive corruption and war against the working class?

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Old 09-10-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I read all the time about people claiming others vote against their own interests. Never met anyone who claimed to do so.



Who is anyone else to tell me what my interests are?
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I vote for the interest of society as a whole. I am not in the position to need Medicaid or a legal abortion or a raised minimum wage, but I vote for those things. It is in my best interest to be surrounded by healthy people who can afford basic necessities. Maybe my taxes go up a small amount, but the benefits of those programs far outweigh the expense, IMO.

I do find it puzzling when people who have Medicaid or food stamps vote for candidates who would like to reduce those safety nets. I know one woman who is very against a raised minimum wage but will moan and groan about how the law partnership she works for pays her only $9/hour and it's barely worth her time. I guess I can see that she wants them to pay her more out of the goodness of their hearts and not because they are mandated to do so? I dunno. It seems to me that she's voting against her own best interest, but people are free to vote how they want to.

ETA: There are so many different issues at stake that it's nearly impossible to agree with a candidate or a political platform 100%. So almost everyone will vote for something that is against their own best interest... I guess the question is what each person finds to be most important.
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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Most people wouldn't admit it, I don't think. But I've known plenty who were dependent on a government program (or two, or three), but voted for politicians who sought to cut funding or de-fund those programs, because they agreed with those politicians on other issues. I've never understood that.

That said, I've voted against my own interests in the past, and probably will again. Especially in local elections. Sometimes there are no candidates who agree with everything that's important to me (often, all candidates will be anti-choice, or opposed to LGBT equality in some ways, etc.), but the alternative is not voting, and I don't feel comfortable with that alternative.
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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What is this massive corruption and war against the working class?

Thats voting for puppets of Wall Street and big pharma and other big business interests that have waged war against the labor unions and the working class for 40 years now by eroding the minimum wage, destroying the unions, weakening the anti-trust legislation, implementing anti-worker trade deals and flooding the political system with billions of dollars.
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