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While Party A is constantly trying to undo everything Party B has done and visa versa there will be no solution on anything of substance. Our Government process is failing or has failed.
Until we stop bickering and work together there will be no meaningful laws or decisions made, only partisan executive orders that undo what others have done, and again visa versa.
How do those who can't afford to do so pay for the remaining 20% for their or their dependents' health care?
You've misunderstood completely. 20% of health care costs would be privately funded because huge amounts of health care spending in any country is not cancer treatment but just regular medicine that people buy every year and pay maybe $100 for per year or getting botox treatment to look better or seeing the doctor because of the flu and paying $20 for it. No country is even close to covering 100% of all health care spending.
You've misunderstood completely. 20% of health care costs would be privately funded because huge amounts of health care spending in any country is not cancer treatment but just regular medicine that people buy every year and pay maybe $100 for per year or getting botox treatment to look better or seeing the doctor because of the flu and paying $20 for it.
So, under your proposal, one cannot see the doctor for the flu without having to have enough money to pay for it?
Around 60,000 people in the US can die from the flu in any given year. Too bad, so sad, for those who can't afford to pay for their own health care? Just die?
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No country is even close to covering 100% of all health care spending.
And neither should the US, in any way, shape, or form.
If you want national health care in the US, EVERYONE has to pay for it, not just America's worker population via reduced wages due to exorbitant taxes on both employers and themselves. Parents are responsible for paying for their children's share.
So, under your proposal, one cannot see the doctor for the flu without having to have enough money to pay for it?
If you cant pay $10 or $20 that day, I am sure you can get a plan to pay it back in installments over a year, for example pay a few cents every month. Whether its $5 or $20 per visit is besides the point. The real cost of the visit might be $100.
The point is that no country is even close to paying 100% of all health care costs. When you read 20% is privately funded you think it is an across the board split regardless of procedure. So people pay $200 000 a year for cancer treatment. Thats not how any national health care system works. If you want that nose job for $15 000, you pay for it 100% out of pocket unless there is something extraordinary wrong there. Thats how things work.
While Party A is constantly trying to undo everything Party B has done and visa versa there will be no solution on anything of substance. Our Government process is failing or has failed.
Until we stop bickering and work together there will be no meaningful laws or decisions made, only partisan executive orders that undo what others have done, and again visa versa.
This is very true. In fact this is a portrait of a nation on the brink of destroying itself.
If you cant pay $10 or $20 that day, I am sure you can get a plan to pay it back in installments over a year, for example pay a few cents every month. Whether its $5 or $20 per visit is besides the point. The real cost of the visit might be $100.
People die from the flu, even with medical care. What makes you think a dead person will fulfill a $20 payment plan?
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The point is that no country is even close to paying 100% of all health care costs. When you read 20% is privately funded you think it is an across the board split regardless of procedure. So people pay $200 000 a year for cancer treatment. That's not how any national health care system works. If you want that nose job for $15 000, you pay for it 100% out of pocket unless there is something extraordinary wrong there. That's how things work.
That's not health care. That's vanity care. Not the same thing, at all.
Again, I will reiterate... If you want national health care in the US, EVERYONE has to pay for it (parents pay their children's share), not just America's worker population via reduced wages due to exorbitant taxes on both employers and themselves. And parents are responsible for paying for their children's share. Want to be irresponsible and have 6 kids you cannot afford by 5 different baby daddies? Too bad. Pay up.
People die from the flu, even with medical care. What makes you think a dead person will fulfill a $20 payment plan?
The vast majority of people dont die from the flu. So the vast majority pay that $20 to talk to the doctor and get some medicine. The people who die from the flu are usually very old and sick, they might be in the nursing home where such treatment is covered anyway. If you die from the flu when you're young, you wont be paid social security and medicare in old age anyway so its not like the government goes bankrupt because some young dead person didnt fulfill the $20 payment plan.
The point is that no country is even close to paying 100% of all health care costs which also includes surgeries to enlarge people's breasts or some other medical procedure. And people go to the drug store and buy all sorts of stuff from the drug store out of pocket in all countries, its not like the public pays for everything a person buys, whether its band-aids, dental products or going to the massage parlor. Its all part of total health care spending. Alot is 100% private funding in any country. Why is that so difficult to understand for you? An American national health care system paying 80% of total health care costs is a generous system and at the high end compared to other countries. Total health care costs of $2.5 trillion would still be the most expensive national health care system by far and public health care costs of $2 trillion (80%) is perfectly doable considering public health care costs are over $1.6 trillion right now.
The vast majority of people dont die from the flu.
The vast majority of people don't die from cancer, either. About 600,000/year out of a population of 325 million. That's 0.18%.
Answer the question... If you want national health care in the US, EVERYONE has to pay for it (parents pay their children's share), not just America's worker population via reduced wages due to exorbitant taxes on both employers and themselves. And parents are responsible for paying for their children's share. Want to be irresponsible and have 6 kids you cannot afford by 5 different baby daddies? Too bad. Pay up. WHY are YOU so quick to want to screw the working class on this instead of insisting that EVERYONE pay their share?
The vast majority of people don't die from cancer, either. About 600,000/year out of a population of 325 million. That's 0.18%.
Answer the question... If you want national health care in the US, EVERYONE has to pay for it (parents pay their children's share), not just America's worker population via reduced wages due to exorbitant taxes on both employers and themselves. And parents are responsible for paying for their children's share. Want to be irresponsible and have 6 kids you cannot afford by 5 different baby daddies? Too bad. Pay up. WHY are YOU so quick to want to screw the working class on this instead of insisting that EVERYONE pay their share?
But cancer has a far higher death rate than the flu. So the vast majority of people going to the doctor to be treated for the flu will pay that doctor's visit charge. You are just creating an issue out of nothing.
If you actually read the thread, you'll see that I've said that $2 trillion PUBLIC health care spending, up from the current $1.6 trillion, is perfectly sensible and a 5% federal sales tax and a 5%/1% employer/employee payroll tax can easily raise well over a trillion dollars a year ($600bn from each source is a reasonable assumption). So half of that can generate $600 billion for a total of $2.2 trillion in public health care spending. And no more bankruptcies because of cancer or skyrocketing health care bills. Everyone get the care they need.
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