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Old 09-16-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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What if I pay for private service but am in an area that is not supported by that private provider? Do I just die, wait for them to locate a provider of their choice? How would that work?
Noted that you didn't challenge any of my points.
As for your scenario:
Would you not research beforehand if you were in a covered area before taking out a policy?
If no insurance is available to you (this is also a big clue you are living in a dangerous area), then you are reliant on the charity of friends, family, neighbors and the altruistic.
Sadly when people see the budgets of govt agencies, they think guv already has enough of everyones money to do the job and far less likely to donate.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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No reasonable human being wants to see someone die as a result of their own stupidity.
I don’t know if you noticed, or what your relative definition of reasonable is, but this forum is choked with sadistic people that love talking about making people suffer and die for stupidity. They think you should be shot and killed for mouthing off to a cop, be mugged beaten and killed for being liberal, and be put in jail for life for having an ounce of weed on you.
I wonder if any towns in this area have a pickup service for people that cannot evacuate on their own. At least that would take care of people that wanted to leave and couldn’t for whatever reason.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Privatize emergency rescue and stop socializing the negative outcomes of other people s behaviours onto the rest of us.
The marketplace is full of answers to such questions.
Most ridiculous logic and post ever^!

Think about the consequences of your bright idea; your neighbor doesn't call the fire department when they see your house on fire while you are not home because of the high private charge to them. Someone refuses to call rescue for an unconscious person or an elderly person needing medical help because they don't want to be stuck with the bill.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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Should people in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave be charged a flat fine if they have to be rescued?

When a child is killed as the result of a natural disaster, should a parent in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave, be charged with criminally negligent homicide?
No.
Even if we charged them, tax payers would not see a dime in savings.
There have been programs cut costing millions of dollars and yet my taxes go up every year.
The money would just be redistributed to a corrupt politician and their big business buddies.
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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most people here assume that all house will fail and all house will flood. If you live in a concrete house at elevation 85 with no creek, rivers lake or dms need you and 100 miles from the coast. your only problem is the tree in the back yard and where the walt disney dvds are
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:06 PM
 
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In some cases along the hurricane Florences path people went door to door to tell the residents to leave and that if they didn't then the rescuers would not be able to help them.


I understand how people feel about told they have to do something but if you stay because you are stubborn you should do so understanding that help will not be coming for you.

I don't think rescue people should risk their lives to rescue people that were not smart enough to get to safety.



Of course there are people that have no where to go or they lack the means, a car, or the money to get flee.



People should not be charged to be rescued from real danger but calling 911 because you didn't get the correct dipping sauce for your nuggets then yes a ticket should be given.
They don't. They only attempt a rescue if it is within whatever safety parameters have been set.

No crew is going out in 20 ft storm surge in 120 mph winds on a tightrope to do a rescue.

So rescuers are doing their jobs. By rescuing people.
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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I think that people who build in flood zones, wildfire areas and mud slide areas should be denied insurance. It costs us all money in the long run.
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Absolutely not. They run the risk of getting seriously hurt or killed. I think that's "punishment" enough.
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Should people in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave be charged a flat fine if they have to be rescued?

When a child is killed as the result of a natural disaster, should a parent in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave, be charged with criminally negligent homicide?
Yes and yes.
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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No one should be charged for being rescued.

There are always invalids, elderly, and disabled people who cannot flee no matter how much they want to. Many live alone and aren't aware of the dangers they may face.
Others have done their best to evacuate, but something went wrong before they could leave. So they become trapped. Others did everything correctly and find themselves trapped miles from home.

Mandatory evacuation is always this way. Just because an order is given to leave does not mean it will be obeyed by all. Obedience to such orders is never universal in these huge weather events and has never been in human history.

We protect our people if we are a nation. It's the most basic part of any government. That protection is paid by all of us every day, all day and night, without interruption. It's our national life insurance.
There is no difference at all between our military, our police, or any of our responders. They are all there continuously to rescue us if we need rescuing.

Where is the crime inherent in a natural disaster? If a child is lost to a flood, how can the parents be blamed for the floodwaters? God brought the flood, not the parents of the child.

No one should ever be charged for being rescued. Period. We all pay it forward long before a disaster ever comes, and hope it never will arrive.
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