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Old 09-29-2018, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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A few years ago I heard it said that Washington had the highest per-capita NRA membership of any state. Undeniably, the state has traditionally opposed common-sense gun safety. A democratic governor even signed into law legalization of silencers in 2011. I don't know who needs a silencer other than an assassin or a gangster. I know that silencers were very popular among NY mafia back in the heyday of the Gambinos etc.

But the climate here has improved. I credit an influx of well-educated Californians, and well-informed millennial tech workers. Initiative 594, to mandate universal background checks, passed 59-40% in 2014. A coalition of concerned citizens, including Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer, and Nick Hanauer (Amazon investor) generously donated to get it passed.

Now we have Initiative 1639, to restrict assault-style weapons. It's a good first step. There has always been confusion about the definition of 'assault style weapon.' I-1639 defines all semi-automatic style weapons as assault weapons. From the initiative:
https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_I..._Measure_(2018)
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Any rifle which utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and chamber the next round, and which requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge.
I'm not a gun expert, so this is all Greek to me, but I'm told that this definition encompasses all semi-automatic-style weapons. This greatly simplifies things. No longer to police have to wonder whether the gun with the 'barrel shroud' is legal or not. The one thing I wish they had included is regulation of the high magazine clips. I think that is key, but they left it off.

Based on recent voting trends in the state, I think this will easily pass. Finally we will be on the road to common sense gun safety, as other advanced states such as California and New York.
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Old 09-29-2018, 06:41 PM
 
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Your link shows nothing.

The people on the eastern side of your state do not agree with you though.
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Old 09-29-2018, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Your link shows nothing.

The people on the eastern side of your state do not agree with you though.
It has often been said that in a state-wide election in WA, all the votes you need to win can be seen from the top of the Space Needle (located in downtown Seattle).
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Old 09-29-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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I 1639 will pass because King county decides how everyone in Washington should live. Proponents of these gun control initiatives don't understand that this only affects law abiding citizens. Criminals aren't going to obey these laws.
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Old 09-29-2018, 07:02 PM
 
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A few years ago I heard it said that Washington had the highest per-capita NRA membership of any state. Undeniably, the state has traditionally opposed common-sense gun safety. A democratic governor even signed into law legalization of silencers in 2011. I don't know who needs a silencer other than an assassin or a gangster. I know that silencers were very popular among NY mafia back in the heyday of the Gambinos etc.

But the climate here has improved. I credit an influx of well-educated Californians, and well-informed millennial tech workers. Initiative 594, to mandate universal background checks, passed 59-40% in 2014. A coalition of concerned citizens, including Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer, and Nick Hanauer (Amazon investor) generously donated to get it passed.

Now we have Initiative 1639, to restrict assault-style weapons. It's a good first step. There has always been confusion about the definition of 'assault style weapon.' I-1639 defines all semi-automatic style weapons as assault weapons. From the initiative:
https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_I..._Measure_(2018)


I'm not a gun expert, so this is all Greek to me, but I'm told that this definition encompasses all semi-automatic-style weapons. This greatly simplifies things. No longer to police have to wonder whether the gun with the 'barrel shroud' is legal or not. The one thing I wish they had included is regulation of the high magazine clips. I think that is key, but they left it off.

Based on recent voting trends in the state, I think this will easily pass. Finally we will be on the road to common sense gun safety, as other advanced states such as California and New York.
The Democrat gun-grabbing commies always lie about stuff, even definitions - they just make up a new meaning for stuff so they can ban it.

Assault weapon has always meant a weapon capable of full automatic fire.

Nothing else is an "assault weapon".

The problem here is that the average democrat is a dimwit that probably knows as much or less as you do about guns , and thus isn't even close to being "qualified" to even have an opinion.
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Old 09-29-2018, 07:07 PM
 
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A few years ago I heard it said that Washington had the highest per-capita NRA membership of any state. Undeniably, the state has traditionally opposed common-sense gun safety. A democratic governor even signed into law legalization of silencers in 2011. I don't know who needs a silencer other than an assassin or a gangster. I know that silencers were very popular among NY mafia back in the heyday of the Gambinos etc.

But the climate here has improved. I credit an influx of well-educated Californians, and well-informed millennial tech workers. Initiative 594, to mandate universal background checks, passed 59-40% in 2014. A coalition of concerned citizens, including Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer, and Nick Hanauer (Amazon investor) generously donated to get it passed.

Now we have Initiative 1639, to restrict assault-style weapons. It's a good first step. There has always been confusion about the definition of 'assault style weapon.' I-1639 defines all semi-automatic style weapons as assault weapons. From the initiative:
https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_I..._Measure_(2018)


I'm not a gun expert, so this is all Greek to me, but I'm told that this definition encompasses all semi-automatic-style weapons. This greatly simplifies things. No longer to police have to wonder whether the gun with the 'barrel shroud' is legal or not. The one thing I wish they had included is regulation of the high magazine clips. I think that is key, but they left it off.

Based on recent voting trends in the state, I think this will easily pass. Finally we will be on the road to common sense gun safety, as other advanced states such as California and New York.
Good luck with that.

There’s between 400 and 600 million guns. 100 million semi auto sporting rifles(your “assault weapons”) are out there.

In CT where they tried this only 13% participated in gun turn ins. New York was 4%.

And there’s still 45 states where I can buy all the ARs and AKs I want!
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Old 09-29-2018, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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Washington State use to be a common sense State until all those Californians who screwed up their State decided to move up here and screw things up here, the same way they did in CA... They're like a swarm of locas... Nothing more and nothing less.

Time to move to a more common sense State cuz it's almost a lost cause here anymore. Sucks being forced from the the place I was born and raised.
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Old 09-29-2018, 07:55 PM
 
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No such thing as a "silencer", there are sound suppressors, but not like in the movies. They make a gun range safer because they reduce the sound of gunfire but make it easier to hear the range safety officer.
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Old 09-29-2018, 07:57 PM
 
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Washington State use to be a common sense State until all those Californians who screwed up their State decided to move up here and screw things up here, the same way they did in CA... They're like a swarm of locas... Nothing more and nothing less.

Time to move to a more common sense State cuz it's almost a lost cause here anymore. Sucks being forced from the the place I was born and raised.
Come to Missouri, we have concealed and open carry without a permit and it is illegal to create a gun registry.
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Old 09-29-2018, 09:58 PM
 
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What in the **** is "assault style"? I didn't assault was a style.
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