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Originally Posted by 2nd trick op
You are falling back upon over-simplification and stereotyping, just like all the so called "open-minded liberals" over there in Left Field. Those "conservatives" who identify as Fundamentalist Christians are entitled to their opinion. but they neither dominate the Republican Party, nor are they a general representation of those of us who believe that individual liberties and the rule of an open economy are indivisible.
Even if Roe vs. Wade were to be "overturned" (a scare-phrase used by the most zealous of the abortion advocacy), the issue would merely be returned to the individual states -- and most of them are not likely to enact the restrictions you fear and oppose.
And there is zero chance that a complete ban on abortion could be written into the Constitution.
No one who has not known the pain of couples faced with the future burden of a dysfunctional child should pass judgment on those who feel abortion should be "safe, legal, and rare" -- but by the same standard, abortion shouldn't be an easy way out / cheap shot for the ignorant and sexually irresponsible.
It's time to put away the rhetoric and formulate a standard that acknowledges that the choices sometimes aren't easy, but protects the rights of all -- and the not-yet-born are a part of that equation.
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This Pew Study says that in 2009 39% of Republicans believed humans and other living things existed in their present form since the beginning of time. In 2013 that percentage had risen to 48%.
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This Gallup poll from 2008 said that 60% of Republicans believed that God created humans within the last 10,000 years. Note that the Gallup poll didn't ask about nonhumans evolving, so apparently lots of people are fine with the idea that nonhumans evolved over time, but not humans.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/108226/...eationism.aspx
A second Gallup poll poll was done in 2012 which found that 58% or Republicans God created humans within the last 10,000 years.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/155003/...n-Origins.aspx
None of the surveys had a large sample sizes. The Pew study sample sizes were almost 2,000 people. The Gallup poll sample sizes were a little over 1,000 people.
Given the political climate over the last decade, I wouldn't be surprised if that percentage has risen. So, you see, my opinion is based off statistics.
I'm not particularly concerned about Roe v. Wade being removed. Even Kavanaugh says he he wouldn't remove it. I was concerned about a bill that had passed in the national house of representatives that would have banned abortion after 20 weeks, without allowing exceptions for genetic disorders or birth defects though, but that seems to have been shot down in the senate.
I'm currently concerned about some state laws now though.
I'm more concerned about the mentality of people that results in that irrational kind of thought process that results in being pro-life though. That type of corrupt thought process will no doubt not limit itself to the abortion issue. It'll echo through other decisions of voters, making democracy not work. If people don't know that 2+2 is four, or that abortions can be beneficial to the life form being euthanize, to the mother, and to society in general, at times, they're not an educate population of voters. They'll probably be easily misled by the charismatic, because they don't understand how think correctly. The same thing can be said of young earth creationists. Young earth creationism, in itself, isn't much of a problem. The thought process behind it though will echo on, corrupting thought processes in other ways too.
An those corrupted thought processes don't have much to do with intelligence, I'd suspect. It's something to do with culture, possibly religion, that hinders thought processes like that. Other aspects of our culture might be responsible too though. It's just harder to think of other possible causes. Maybe our culture's general anti-intellectual atmosphere is part of it? Maybe we have more of a "I'm going to worry about my family, and not much else...screw the wider world" attitude that results in that. I don't know what the problem is...but we have a problem, and that problem seems mostly concentrate in the Republican party.
There are other areas the Republican party is typically totally irrational as well. They opposed gay marriage, which doesn't make any sense. They're more likely to want to punish drug usage, which doesn't make much sense, and doesn't make any sense regarding pot. They're usually opposed to physician assisted euthanasia, which doesn't make any sense.
Republicans want those sorts of things that you just have to have some kind of logical thought related problem to want. Those sorts of things I talked about above are all more or less, common sense. If our culture doesn't understand that, we have a very corrupt cultural thought process that can't understand the reasoning behind thought processes thoughtful middle school students should be able to comprehend.
Democrats want several things that might not be the best ideas in the world too...but those tend to be more controversial topics. Are women really not getting paid enough? Well that's not common sense. That requires research. Would Bernie Sanders really bankrupt the government? Again, that's not common sense either. That requires research.
Republicans just frequently want things that absolutely nobody has as any reason to want. Now, the individualist vs. collectivist mentality is a valid issue...but even at that point, the Republicans have these anarcho capitalists who not only advocate for a more individualist-oriented, rather than collectivist society, but delude themselves into believing the collectivist mentality is without question wrong, and the tax-free individualist oriented mentality is the only correct choice. That also shows a lack of common sense.
Thanks for your comment though.
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