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Old 10-08-2018, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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If she is receiving death threats, they're as likely from leftist crackpots as from right wingers
LOL, that is your fantasy. Leftists aren't going to threaten her, she is on "their side." That would be the right wingers doing that.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:39 AM
 
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4) Monica McClean used to work for James Comey.
Good grief, the democrats’ corrupt exposure on this just gets worse and worse.
I just learned that Ford had used several different dates of her assualt. But After working with her lawyers and democrat politicians she settled on saying it was in 1982 because that made Kavanaugh only 17 and the FBI many investigations only went back to age 18.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:40 AM
 
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What kind of rose-colored glasses would hide the fact that Republicans stonewalled the Bush-era documents, or obscure Kavanaugh's crybaby performance?

A Supreme Court Justice on the legal team that justified torture, who lied under oath about dealing with documents stolen from Democrats, who spouts conspiracy theories and vows to get back at those who oppose him, ... drags down the legitimacy of the Supreme Court itself.

How anyone but Russians can side with the Republicans on this is somewhat of a mystery.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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You wouldn't believe the "slings" that my own leftist family members have directed towards me and my wonderful, dear wife over the last two years........completely unprovoked. (I turned on Facebook last Saturday morning, and there was another one, just waiting for me......from my sister...ugh).
God has given me the patience and forebearance to not tell them to go *#@% themselves and never talk to us again. Mostly for my kids' sake, so that they can possibly have relationships with their relatives.
Why would you want to subject your kids to people who are obviously toxic? It's like allowing a repeat offender bully access to your kids.
Doesn't matter if it's family or not, in fact it's WORSE if it's family as they clearly show they don't care about that...
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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Remember the night Kavanaugh was nominated and Chuck Schumer said 'We will do ANYTHING to keep him from being confirmed"?

Ford = anything
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:00 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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We've been on other threads where we argued history to death (Civil War last time, wasn't it?)

Full disclosure: I've worked as an investigator in reviewing large volumes of attorney-compiled information for factual inconsistencies etc. From it, I've developed a profound distaste for distortion.

Ford's testimony drew me because of her apparent fearfulness (with the odd laughter etc. quite typical). I've read a lot about trauma, dealt with several trauma therapists in connection with a family member.

I believed her. Not blindly, and I have wondered whether she could have fabricated the affect. But anyone smart enough to do that wouldn't have left the holes.

That simple.

Carry on.
Except maybe someone whose expertise is psychology - expertise to the point they are considered an expert in the field. They would be well aware of the affect displayed by victims of trauma (sexual or otherwise) but probably not so aware of all the little non-psychological details that should be associated with the partial alledged traumatic event. I can tell you all about how a traumatized child manifests in a classroom to an expert level but I can only explain how they got traumatized to the level of an intelligent, interested party - in other words, while I could very believably portray a traumatized child (were I not an adult) to the level it would likely fool even other expects, there would be holes if I tried to explain a made up event leading to that traumatization.

I have lots, and do means lots, of issues with her claim. It definitely comes nowhere near the “more likely than not” threshold.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:03 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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These are the things one must consider before you go on the world stage and start accusing a Man with complete lies and false accusations that have no proof or evidence from your childhood.

This story may also be one of her lies but if not she probably understands how the Kavanaugh family feels. His kids probably need Secret Service protection at this point from all the leftist crazies.

She's mentally ill. Hopefully she's at a nice Malibu retreat seeking help.

I'd love to see her on Dr Phil in a few weeks. He could give her a whole week to get her story out.
How appalling and offensive are some attitudes seen here.

What do you suppose prompted her or what would have benefitted her to bother coming forward, to be publicly viewed, be under scrutiny, being judged, shamed and derided by others, chancing what has occurred for she and her family? Sure, anyone would do that just for fun, right?

I imagine that those being so thoughtless and so far removed from understanding another's experience, will have to face something themselves down the road (or in a future life, if reincarnation exists. Karma).
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:16 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Thank you Everlady. I like the way you have kept an open mind about this the whole time. I admittedly thought it was bs from the get-go so don’t have an open mind about it. I see this through the lens of my own youth, and we were pretty big partiers too. I know how we would have reacted.

If they didn’t get there together, then it may be possible not to make note of her leaving. But I would still question her about it later if it were my friend. Either these girls were not that good of friends, or crappy friends. I would have already been upstairs just making sure she was okay if I noticed that scenario. If it were a big party with lots of people, then it would be a different thing altogether, but she said there were six people there including her friend Keyser. I just can’t imagine her scenario being forgettable to her friend.

Perhaps that’s why they say lifelong friends instead of best friends. Maybe they weren’t that good of friends, even then. I still don’t believe this happened, though I always thought it could have happened until her friend said she didn’t recall or meet Kavanaugh.
The group I ran around with around the time this supposedly happened were serious partiers as well. I can tell you with almost certainty that none of them no matter how much they drank or smoked or snorted or swallowed (acid etc) were EVER black out intoxicated. I have seen many "pass out drunk" but never blacked out not remembering.
Maybe it has something to do with age?

I can also say that at every party I've ever attended (and there were many) no matter what drug or what liquid was ingested (or combination of both) if something like this would've happened many if not all the people in the group would've known within 48 hours if not that night. The girls CERTAINLY would've known both from the party AND at school. Gossip like this would've been too "juicy" to not make the rounds.

Now I've seen inhibitions totally wiped away at parties where totally blasted boys/girls did things that they'd never do sober and I've seen them regret them in the light of day but their regret was always aimed inward as THEY willingly drank/took drugs that put them in the position to begin with.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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We've been on other threads where we argued history to death (Civil War last time, wasn't it?)

Full disclosure: I've worked as an investigator in reviewing large volumes of attorney-compiled information for factual inconsistencies etc. From it, I've developed a profound distaste for distortion.

Ford's testimony drew me because of her apparent fearfulness (with the odd laughter etc. quite typical). I've read a lot about trauma, dealt with several trauma therapists in connection with a family member.

I believed her. Not blindly, and I have wondered whether she could have fabricated the affect. But anyone smart enough to do that wouldn't have left the holes.

That simple.

Carry on.
How do you find holes in an event without how, when, who or where?

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Old 10-08-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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How do you find whole in an event without how, when, who or where?
When you are all-in on the basis of "tribe," you don't need to know any of that, apparently.
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