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Because we see the current Administration and the far far right wing as a threat to our Democracy, our Constitution and everything that America has ever stood for. There has been an out and out assault on human rights and dignity.
It seems to me to be the beginning of an effort to separate people by religion, gender and race.
There is a war from the right on everything America has ever stood for. That is how I feel...totally outraged. Of course, I can only speak for myself. ( Keep in mind also that I was a Republican myself until two years ago...and I had been a republican since the 70's when I became of voting age.)
Okay, please be specific with FACTS on how republicans are threatening our democracy and constitution.
FACTS on how democrats are threatening democracy and constitution.
# Democrats defy federal immigration laws and want open borders, unconstitutional. They create sanctuary cities
to protect criminals. And yes, anyone who sneaks across our border, who steals SS numbers, is a criminal.
# Democrats have encouraged the killing of our police “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? NOW!!” And no democrat leaders have denounced it.
# Democrats disobey and disrespect the second amendment by banning conservative speakers at colleges and banning conservatives on social media, and weaponizing the IRS against conservative groups.
# Democrats want and encourage socialism, not capitalism or democracy as shown by the popularity of these new socialists winning elections. Obama’s just came out endorsing a socialist. NOT DEMOCRASY OR CONSTITUTIONAL.
# The democrats are against “innocent until proven guilty” as their leaders and followers have just shown us.
# Democrats supporting NY socialist Cortez have just come out demanding to eliminate the electoral college -UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!
There’s more, but let’s see your FACTS on how republicans are against democrasy and the constitution. Please show where this administration or republicans have separated people by religion, race, gender. It is the democrats spewing hate and division toward white privileged Men, toxic masculinity, and creating gender tension, and race and religion tensions non stop!! A day doesn’t go by when democrats don’t spew hate toward Christians, men and white people!
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How sad and boring we would all be if we are were all the same.
When I was in school we were taught that America was the great melting pot, and that was part of what made us so unique and so beautiful.
What you are calling "our problem" is our strongest asset and feature.
What you are calling Superficial I consider Absolute American values.
Diversity is beneficial in 2 ways: it is a source of ideas and a source of alternative values and principles, which then turn to policy if it can be applied across cultures, nationalities and races.
The problem with the democrats is that they are not linking their ideas to a general rule that republicans can go along with. They mistakenly believe what they are fighting for are values or principles, but what they are actually protesting are their claims. They lack generally accepted and relevant facts to support their claims. Also, their values or principles are either not clear or missing. On the other hand, their values may be the same as a Trump supporter, but are not being applied correctly. In other words, Democrats are playing checkers, while Republicans are playing chess.
I grew up around Americans who later became Trump supporters. While there are some who are racists (you can find this on both sides), the vast majority follow common values and principles, which allow them to speak the same language across topics. That is how they are winning right now.
The ferocity of the left at various times over the last 10 years is far bigger than the issues. Liberals know that they took control of the culture in the 1930s and 40s. They know that FDR was pretty much the greatest president ever and that the history books have always taught kids that. They know that Republicans were pretty much dead and gone by 1980.
No-fault divorce, legal abortion, a totally different immigration pattern, the growth of The State, etc. etc. Everything was going their way, and was destined to keep doing so. They now had control of the schools and Hollywood, so they felt pretty confident that most young Americans would never even find out about the liberal takeover that had taken place.......not the full story, at least. People would think that American society had ALWAYS been liberal. (And even with foreign affairs, things were going in the "right" direction: it made them happy that America had been taken down a notch or two, by the Vietnamese, by the Russians, by the Iranians......Communism was preeminent and growing around the world and we had accepted that.......those were good developments.) Sure, Nixon had snuck in there, but they had taken him OUT, big time. Carter had governed as a pure liberal.
So 1979 and 1980 were about the best years for liberals, in hindsight. Their future looked golden.
But then Reagan (the "clown") happened. And here is the key point: THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. The "alternative ways to view the world" and politics were assumed to be long-dead. Liberals OWNED everything.....so how did Reagan happen?? It was impossible, and because it was so "impossible", it infuriated liberals. The "proper" ordering of the universe was not happening the way it was supposed to! And this led to the shock and the raw, emotional energy. The left had worked hard to own this country, and they thought they DID have it, and then that shockingly turned out to not be true at all. How did this happen?? They couldn't believe it.
Well, they thought FOR SURE that they had it all under control by 2008. Things had gotten back on track and a Reagan could never happen again. It had been a fluke. We were even more secular than ever. Demographics had changed in an even more "progressive" direction. Obama was God, Republicans' name was mud, and liberals still owned the culture lock, stock and barrel.
But it's been one bitter disappointment ever since. Midterm elections, Trump getting elected, and now the Kavanaugh fight......none of this was ""supposed to happen". Look, when you have owned the culture for 80 years, and your opponents' party was on its deathbed 40 years ago, none of this is "supposed" to be happening! Any one would feel the same.
And this is why the left gets as frantic, angry and rageful as they did during the Kavanaugh fight. It's not really the issues that matter....it's more psychological. The left has felt entitled to have everything go its way, yet these alternative ways to view the world still somehow persist (and are actually even victorious at times). And THAT is infuriating.
Answer: because the laws of economic and common sense eventually catch up to the left, and ever since Crooked Hillary went down to defeat, the right has been winning.
Because we see the current Administration and the far far right wing as a threat to our Democracy, our Constitution and everything that America has ever stood for. There has been an out and out assault on human rights and dignity.
It seems to me to be the beginning of an effort to separate people by religion, gender and race.
There is a war from the right on everything America has ever stood for. That is how I feel...totally outraged. Of course, I can only speak for myself. ( Keep in mind also that I was a Republican myself until two years ago...and I had been a republican since the 70's when I became of voting age.)
1. We are not a democracy -- for the 1,000th time I've had to point it out on these boards. We re a constututional republic.
2. Obama and Hillary are the masters of identity politics, whether or not you care to believe it.
That, and Gore had actually won the popular vote of the people...if he had won he would have appointed
The Supreme Court Justice, and Hillary and won by over 2 million votes over Trumpster...and should have appointed another two....because of the gerry mandered electorial college, we are going to get a Supreme Court that is not really representative of the average American's views and values when the Democrats in both cases actually won the popular vote.
This would make anyone mad.
The electorial college vote needs to be abolished.
The right is dirty, and will do any dirty deed they can to achieve their goals and get their way.
Dirty politics:
* A 25 year old drunken driving charge that George W Bush had, was released to the news airwaves on the weekend before the 2000 election. (the left played dirty)
* The Access Holllywood tape against Donald Trump was released not too far in front of the election. (the left played dirty)
* Robert Bork, 1987 - the left played dirty
* Brett Kavanaugh - 36 year old questionable charges against an immature high school kid almost kept a fine man from being put on the supreme court (the left played dirty again)
* The electoral college IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. So stop complaining, and concentrate your efforts to find a candidate that can actually win some of those states. The electoral college will NEVER be abolished because you need 38 states to agree to it. And those states you need to agree to it, would be signing away their own power.
The left keeps coming to the conclusion that they have FINALLY extinguished the "resistance"................now we can all just cruise on down the happy road of Progress (aka "Progressives"). And you can't blame them for thinking that. But the "resistance" proves over and over and over again to be quite stubborn..........it's like a cockroach and they can't quite get rid of it. And so the thought pops into the left's mind that maybe they will NEVER actually be able to extinguish the damned thing. If it only existed as a harmless little speck, that would be okay. But every few years something like Trump or Kavanaugh pops up, and the left realizes that it's NOT just a "tiny little speck". Thus the huge freak out.
None of this was "supposed" to be happening. The war was supposed to be OVER, forty years ago.............aaargghhh!!!
^We do not have open borders and haven't for more than a century.
No one wants Open Borders. At least no one that I have ever met or talk to wants open borders.
To assume someone wants open borders because they think the wall is a dumb idea is erroneous.
They may have different ideas on how to stop illegal immigration, but that doesn't mean they are for open borders
(there maybe a few nuts that do, but they are the extreme end of the spectrum)
Some liberal Yale professors just came out with a major new study that found there are at least 22 million illegals here (this news was not covered by the media, of course). This is just measuring the number of ILLEGAL people here; the number of legals is also huge: ofhttps://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/09/shocker_study_shows_the_number_of_illegals_double_ what_was_previously_thought.html
This is all by design, and so again, liberals look at these numbers and say, "HOW IS THIS FREAKING HAPPENING?!?! We have done everything we could do to transform the country into what we want it to be in order to get and keep power, and we have been wildly successful in doing so...........but we just can't "wrap it all up!! They just won't surrender!!"
The left knows, for the majority of political subdivisions (governor, state houses, House, Senate, POTUS, Supreme Court (via associates ages as now they are NOT SJWs in disguise (majority))), they have lost power for decades to come.
Consider they are gleeful over this election, and at best they may take the House. Whereas over the last 8 years the GOP assumed control over all of those aforementioned categories. In 2010 alone, the GOP added 63 House seats (NET) plus 6 (NET) Senate seats.
The GOP went on to assume control of all chambers in 2 dozen states, versus 6 where the Dems have full control.
Simply stated, the Demoncrats have been as unsuccessful as the 2018 Baltimore Orioles.
The ferocity of the left at various times over the last 10 years is far bigger than the issues. Liberals know that they took control of the culture in the 1930s and 40s. They know that FDR was pretty much the greatest president ever and that the history books have always taught kids that. They know that Republicans were pretty much dead and gone by 1980.
No-fault divorce, legal abortion, a totally different immigration pattern, the growth of The State, etc. etc. Everything was going their way, and was destined to keep doing so. They now had control of the schools and Hollywood, so they felt pretty confident that most young Americans would never even find out about the liberal takeover that had taken place.......not the full story, at least. People would think that American society had ALWAYS been liberal. (And even with foreign affairs, things were going in the "right" direction: it made them happy that America had been taken down a notch or two, by the Vietnamese, by the Russians, by the Iranians......Communism was preeminent and growing around the world and we had accepted that.......those were good developments.) Sure, Nixon had snuck in there, but they had taken him OUT, big time. Carter had governed as a pure liberal.
So 1979 and 1980 were about the best years for liberals, in hindsight. Their future looked golden.
But then Reagan (the "clown") happened. And here is the key point: THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. The "alternative ways to view the world" and politics were assumed to be long-dead. Liberals OWNED everything.....so how did Reagan happen?? It was impossible, and because it was so "impossible", it infuriated liberals. The "proper" ordering of the universe was not happening the way it was supposed to! And this led to the shock and the raw, emotional energy. The left had worked hard to own this country, and they thought they DID have it, and then that shockingly turned out to not be true at all. How did this happen?? They couldn't believe it.
Well, they thought FOR SURE that they had it all under control by 2008. Things had gotten back on track and a Reagan could never happen again. It had been a fluke. We were even more secular than ever. Demographics had changed in an even more "progressive" direction. Obama was God, Republicans' name was mud, and liberals still owned the culture lock, stock and barrel.
But it's been one bitter disappointment ever since. Midterm elections, Trump getting elected, and now the Kavanaugh fight......none of this was ""supposed to happen". Look, when you have owned the culture for 80 years, and your opponents' party was on its deathbed 40 years ago, none of this is "supposed" to be happening! Any one would feel the same.
And this is why the left gets as frantic, angry and rageful as they did during the Kavanaugh fight. It's not really the issues that matter....it's more psychological. The left has felt entitled to have everything go its way, yet these alternative ways to view the world still somehow persist (and are actually even victorious at times). And THAT is infuriating.
Substitute the words leftist globalists for "liberal" and you have it about right.
Because we see the current Administration and the far far right wing as a threat to our Democracy, our Constitution and everything that America has ever stood for. There has been an out and out assault on human rights and dignity.
It seems to me to be the beginning of an effort to separate people by religion, gender and race.
There is a war from the right on everything America has ever stood for. That is how I feel...totally outraged. Of course, I can only speak for myself. ( Keep in mind also that I was a Republican myself until two years ago...and I had been a republican since the 70's when I became of voting age.)
This is what YOUR dem leaders think about, "our Constitution"
“Time and time again we find progressive laws struck down and it’s always ALWAYS the ones the Constitution is against
These right wing judges don’t think for themselves, the just do what the Constitutions says. And it’s time for that to change”. Chuck Shumer
“We need judges to be advocates of progressive laws, NOT people who will bow to the Constitution putting its extreme values of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion against our addenda” Elizabeth Warren.
“We are sick and tired of the Constitution sitting in National Archives manipulating everything we do.” Cory Booker
"It seems to me to be the beginning of an effort to separate people by religion, gender and race."
"beginning"
Where have you been for the past 20 years or so?
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