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Old 10-13-2018, 11:22 PM
 
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Whatever it is you say we won with D. Trump, I ask, what price did we pay to win whatever you say it is we won?

For myself. I'm very uncertain if we actually won anything tangible at all but I'm really concerned that we are giving up our moral values, our dignity, our integrity as a nation just to trust a narcissistic, self absorbed ego maniac as our leader.
Thank you. I couldn’t have said it better
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Old 10-13-2018, 11:50 PM
 
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Sounded like you were.
Well I guess it might be sad that someone who presided over this debacle (as in BO) is regarded as such an inspiring figure. As I look at this .... Seats in Congress Gained/Lost by the President's Party in Mid-Term Elections

I see it took BO just 2 years to lose as much as George Bush did in 6 years in the House and Senate. Yet Republicans were "running from Bush?" Sounds like some Democrats would have been better off running from BO.
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Old 10-14-2018, 12:03 AM
 
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Well I guess it might be sad that someone who presided over this debacle (as in BO) is regarded as such an inspiring figure. As I look at this .... Seats in Congress Gained/Lost by the President's Party in Mid-Term Elections

I see it took BO just 2 years to lose as much as George Bush did in 6 years in the House and Senate. Yet Republicans were "running from Bush?" Sounds like some Democrats would have been better off running from BO.
Yep. Republicans wanted nothing to do with Bush in the 2010 midterms, just like I said on page one of this thread.
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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This is wrong. The entire Bush family has decided to back the democrats with their assault on Trump.
And just who started that feud?
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:12 AM
 
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Pssst ! I think you need to take another look at how many people voted for Hillary vs Trump. Yes, he did win, but only because of the electoral college thing. More actual humans voted for Hillary than Trump.


So, the next time you say "no one liked Hillary", you will realize what an incorrect statement you just made.

Here are the final numbers:
Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.
Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)
Yes, she got more votes. However, TBH, I think lots of votes in 2016 were cast against one candidate or the other. That, all by itself, is pretty sad. The about Hillary is, people's minds are made up about her, just like they are about Trump. I supported her when she became the nominee, but I really do think it's time for her to get out of the way, for the good of the party and the country. Fair or not, she has too much baggage to be a viable candidate at this point.
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:23 AM
 
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Hillary is politically dead and over. Time to move on.
Riiiiiight. What are you twenty?

She was just on two prime time tv shows and is going on tour with bill.

She’s running in 2020 and it’s glaringly obvious.

Don’t care whom likes it or not just pointing out the clear signs and these are just the most recent
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:28 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by don1945 View Post
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Pssst ! I think you need to take another look at how many people voted for Hillary vs Trump. Yes, he did win, but only because of the electoral college thing. More actual humans voted for Hillary than Trump.


So, the next time you say "no one liked Hillary", you will realize what an incorrect statement you just made.

Here are the final numbers:
Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.
Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)
I voted for Hillary, I didn’t like her. IMO she was the lesser of two evils. This election was more about who you hated less. Very few people I know actually liked Hillary.
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:30 AM
 
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Whatever it is you say we won with D. Trump, I ask, what price did we pay to win whatever you say it is we won?

For myself. I'm very uncertain if we actually won anything tangible at all but I'm really concerned that we are giving up our moral values, our dignity, our integrity as a nation, but most of all the truth, just to trust a narcissistic, self absorbed, ego maniac as our leader.
For a moment I thought you were talking about Obama. We know that he cost us over 9 trillion dollars. We know that his admin watched as towns were looted and burned by rioters.
Trump is a tub of rancid lard, but he isn't completely wrong in what he says. He is normally wrong in how he says it.
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Old 10-14-2018, 04:24 AM
 
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You are all deplorables. I see it here every single day. Nothing she has said is shocking.

Hillary, is that you posting?
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Old 10-14-2018, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Most dems are not hardline liberals. They are blue collar guys who see things and behave much like many Republicans. Give them someone like Webb and back that candidate and Trump is toast. Both parties keep reading the people wrong. We aren't looking for more extreme. We are looking for more reasonable.
Jim Webb? Really? The guy is 72 years old. If that's the best the dems can do, then Trump is going to have a cakewalk in 2020.
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