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Old 11-06-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I can't vote your rights away, but you can. You're not forced to stay. Staying is consent. You've consented to whatever limits on your rights you're living under.

No, which is why it's a surprise you keep opting to remain a citizen when there's nothing keeping you here. Maybe you should look into renouncing your citizenship? I'm sure one of your oppressors will be happy to explain the process to you.
No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. Period!
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. Period!
You're backtracking. Stay on point. You consented by remaining and accepting your citizenship. You literally opted into the terms & conditions. If you're unhappy with your decision, you're free to leave.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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Just the nature of the beast.......government is always lusting for more and more power. For the most part, it doesn't really matter what the best way is, government eventually grabs more and more "opportunities" to let the people know that government has the final say.
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You're backtracking. Stay on point. You consented by remaining and accepting your citizenship. You literally opted into the terms & conditions. If you're unhappy with your decision, you're free to leave.
Were you misled to assume that the servant government could impose subject citizenship AT BIRTH upon sovereign people?
You might profit by reading the law, available in any county courthouse law library.
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Old 11-06-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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What happens if I choose not to?
Do I get to consent to be governed, or will I be told what to do, starring down the barrel of a gun?
Benjamin Franklin explained it. Go live among the savages.
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Old 11-06-2018, 12:06 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Benjamin Franklin explained it. Go live among the savages.
Yes he did....
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
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Old 11-06-2018, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Benjamin Franklin explained it. Go live among the savages.
I'm a sophisticated savage.
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Old 11-06-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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The minute you opted to stay, you consented to be governed.
The minute a woman opted to wear a bikini, she consented to be raped.

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Old 11-06-2018, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Were you misled to assume that the servant government could impose subject citizenship AT BIRTH upon sovereign people?
You might profit by reading the law, available in any county courthouse law library.
Again, we already covered that and you're backtracking. If it citizenship wasn't conferred by birth, then that's more evidence that you OPTED INTO THE SYSTEM. You'd have a stronger argument if said you were born into citizenship against your will, but you've staked your claim that you, at some point, accepted citizenship.

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The minute a woman opted to wear a bikini, she consented to be raped.

Sorry your analogy falls apart b/c there's no coercion from the gov't to "rape" you. You are free to leave.
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