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Old 11-12-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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"Shotgun Joe"??
Sorry, no.

 
Old 11-12-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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Her determination = She thinks she's entitled to the US presidency as it's her turn you know.

IMHO she's very entitled to a jail cell or .
She has done nothing to warrant charges.... certainly nothing that could lead to even the consideration of Jail.

The Trump madness about emails is nothing but fluff for a uneducated group who does not understand technology... Besides, Trump never produced the server he had destroyed and Pence hired a lawyer to try and cover up the emails he himself hid.

so either way, emails is a non issue.

The only person who has a delusion of entitlement to the Presidency is Trump.... Hillary has spent her life serving and to pursue continuing to do so, is not about entitlement, it about promoting values that help, protect and serve the American people.

She IS NOT an Anti Government person, nor is the people who support her "anti-government" the people who support Hillary have a long history of understanding Governments role in serving its citizens, the nation, its states and its cities.

Her Supporters are not dumb to think that the Government does not have a responsibility to serve and support, promoter and invest in the people, the nations, its states, its cities and its communities. This is a reality that is void and lost on Republican understanding any of that. Except when Right Winger only want to understand it, when it is done to benefit only the white right society and their agenda...
Then and Only Then, they are all for government investments, as long as they think it won't benefit minorities and single women and our immigrant population. which means they only see government through a "white nationalist lens".... they have some dumb delusion that they are the only one paying taxes, which is the among the most absurd grandstanding self delusions anyone could imagine.

Good for the nation, that the majority of people today, don't want any "white nationalism", and they are not in support of some "Jim Crow Era Governing Habits"..... Whether Republican Right Winger wake up and realize it or not... there won't be a recreation of Jim Crow Era Governing Habits in America.

That period is gone.....!!! those clinging and lusting for it will only get to sing the same song they've been singing, of "We've been left behind".... Fact is they push and fight to run backwards, so there can be no pity for them, because the world moves forward.... its sad they have chosen to lust for the past, but they had every opportunity to support the steps into the future, and they fight against it.

So, when they are not prepared, it is on them.

Advances from people like Hillary, will promote education for all, vocational and technical training, to start in 9th-10th and the introduction to vocational and technical paths to be introduced and explained in for 6th -8th graders... The promotion of Civic Education to be integrated in All Curriculum so people understand better how every aspect of education fits into our society and systems of governance.

Republican sadly, don't even think in such terms or in consideration of such things. They think in terms of "attack the government" in every aspect and element of the government. Too, unaware that everything America achieved and all that it will achieve is directly tied to the fact of the Governance in this Country.

Some are not too old to learn these things, they are by choice "too obstinate" and "too much lusting for the confabulated and fictional fantasy folklore about the past".... when the past was never what they fantasized and consumed themselves within bigotry and bias to assume it was. "Confabulation" is what consumes them... and they have no interest to learn the truth, so they will make their choice to continue the same ole song.... of "being left behind", because they chose to run backwards.

Already people are growing more tired to the daily belligerence, and the daily attack on anything and everything about and of America by Trump... and his trying to put down every aspect of the American Government and the American Society.....
 
Old 11-12-2018, 10:30 AM
 
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It would be great! A GREAT way to fix America!

Government will take care of ALL of our needs, no more need to hold a job, pay for housing, food, gasoline, healthcare and they'll even buy new clothing every month with a new car furnished every year!



Ooops, almost forgot as they will build housing for all peoples outside our country to come in and be taken care of even better than the born USA citizens while the populous to be subject to killings and more diseases.




“A Liberal Paradise would be a place where everybody
has guaranteed employment, free comprehensive healthcare,
free education, free food, free housing, free clothing, free utilities;
and only Law Enforcement has guns.

Such a place does exist.

It’s called prison.”

(Ayn Rand)
 
Old 11-12-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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Thomas Jefferson could be reborn tomorrow, and right wing media d-bags and their dopey knuckle dragging fans on this board would be calling him a communist if the Democrats nominated him.

We're already starting with Presidential election propaganda in November 2018?
 
Old 11-12-2018, 11:22 AM
 
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Elect Biden in 2020 and "Lets Fix America" *Again" !!!, after a second time in less than 20 yrs in which Republicans have damaged us, our image, our stature among nations and insulted our domestic integrity and attacked our democratic values, yet again...

Or

Elect Warren in 2020 and "Lets Fix America" *Again" !!!, after a second time in less than 20 yrs in which Republicans have damaged us, our image, our stature among nations and insulted our domestic integrity and attacked our democratic values, yet again...

One as President and One as Vice President.... in either order will work... to "Let's Fix American", *Again:



We know and see Trump has no plan or design for helping "All" Americans in the Midwest, the West, The East and the South nor the North have seen anything that helps the average American, absolutely nothing for our schools, no early entry to vocational and technical skill training, no relief for community colleges or state universities and nothing "nadt!!!" (not a damn thing) for the elderly in our society. We saw the insult to our Territory of Puerto Rico, and we see the disaster of damages done by taking kids from their parents, among many many other things that insult us on the National and Global Stage of this world and our society.

Elect Biden in 2020 and "Lets Fix America" *Again" !!!, France's Leader said exactly what Obama said 10 yrs ago, which is we have to build for the future, educate our people for the future and create industry for the future.

Trump pushed trying to bring back industry that no longer functions as it did in the past, and "is not coming back".... It should be evident, that the old industrial model, does not even work in China or any other place, because they modernized and incorporated technology...

China also has a strong position in support of "On The Job Training", which helps them modify and adapt at a very quick pace.....

Elect Biden in 2020 and "Lets Fix America" *Again" !!!, He will win by a Landslide... because people want a future and they want civility and dignity in our office of the President, and they want someone who has respect for the governance system of the nation, and someone who has character for the value and support of global diplomacy.

People want someone who knows and understand the urgent need to protect our environment. and People want the health care Obama's administration designed, and they want to improve upon the foundation it created for National Health Care. People want our Infrastructure Fixed, All Across this Nation people want their "water systems fixed".... and people want their kids to have "hope" and change... for a better future.

People don't want their kids exposed to day after day belligerence, day after day attacks on America's Governance system, Attacks on its Departments and Attacks on its Divisions, and Attack on anything and everything that continues to be within the Trump daily Attack Something Activities.

People want a restoration to our Diplomacy, they want our Diplomats back at work, and People want not to give tax to the wealthy, while we are buried in debt, but a stabilization of taxes on the average working people, and investments into out society from the Midwest, the West, The East and the South and the North.

People don't want their kids growing up on daily hate speech, and daily denigration of everything in America by any person sitting in the Presidential Office.

People don't want the damages the trade war has created and caused, and people don't want a war like posturing with china, and certainly don't want the break away divisiveness that has been caused between us and our European Allies.

People are more ready for Obama, than they were when he first took office. they see the alternative has been nothing but a disaster and a denigration of everything that has made been gone through which worked to make American Greatness !!! they see it all being damaged each and every day... They see a dysfunction that has promoted a culture of contempt and rage across the nation, and fed into a racial madness that is liken to the 1930's through the early 1960's.

Elect Biden in 2020 and "Lets Fix America" *Again" !!! This time, let's not let it fall into the hands of such damages as what we see in this current Republican system ever again.

If the Republican want a seat at the table, then they need to go back to respecting the Party and Principles that Lincoln stood for when he created the Republican Party. They will have to Abandon their Confederate Ideology and Confederacy Agenda....

Nations have taken to re-aligning themselves in every way possible, because of the vile of the current Administration, the attacks and assault posture that has come from this Administration.

We've seen everything from Damage to Nuclear Weapons Agreements, to Trade, to Diplomacy and to the National Conscience within the Nation, and We've seen Racism rise up like a repeat of early years pre 1964, and we've never seen such a incessant acts of disregard for our laws, our systems and abuse of power and denigration of our governmental structure from the office of the Whites House. What we are seeing is everything the Southern Confederacy Sought within their Attack on the United States and its Democracy Principles.

Elect Biden in 2020 and "Lets Fix America" *Again" !!!
Are you paid per word?
 
Old 11-12-2018, 12:24 PM
 
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Biden would be a great choice.
Until he's labeled a racist woman hater like was done to Sanders in 2016.

Not joking, that's going to be the angle worked on him in the primary and with the slew of identity politics that dominates that party it would be hard to overcome.
 
Old 11-12-2018, 12:31 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Elect Biden in 2020 and "Lets Fix America" *Again" !!!,
Let me fix that for you:

Elect Bidoom in 2020 and "Let's revive Tyranny" *Again" !!!
 
Old 11-12-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: New York
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If Biden is the best you've got, then Trump will be re-elected.

The function of the President is not to make sure people in other foreign States like America.

The President's only function is to ensure America is prosperous and adequately defended.

When 1/2 the country doesn't like this economy, the tax cuts because it only helps the rich (a proven lie as these cuts are helping 80% and taking property tax deductions away from the wealthiest), manufacturing jobs coming back (Obama said that was impossible), millions off food stamps, job participation climbing, and then credit Obama for all the good while hammering Trump for everything else - well, seems the tipping point of takers over doers has been reached.




Common sense seems to be a commodity we need more than anything else.
 
Old 11-12-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Thomas Jefferson could be reborn tomorrow, and right wing media d-bags and their dopey knuckle dragging fans on this board would be calling him a communist if the Democrats nominated him.

We're already starting with Presidential election propaganda in November 2018?
There is no way Thomas Jefferson would be nominated by the dems. His philosophy is 180 degrees out of phase with the current crop of dems. He believed in a nearly non-existent federal government, much stronger state governments, a society based around agriculture and ruralism, and very strong individual freedom--the dems believe just the opposite on all four of those points.

Go ahead and read nearly anything written by Jefferson: as a dem, you would hate him in no time--about as much as you hate Trump.
 
Old 11-12-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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All these right wing grand-stander with some delusion they are are so independent of the government, is the biggest joke ever... it only demonstrate their overall ignorance of and about America.

If they think they can make it without a government like we have... then by all means, "why don't they get on a plane and go to Haiti, or for that matter, Go to Mexico or any country that does not have a government that invest in society in all ways, as does the American Government.

This is the result of America allowing all these SERF and People from Authoritarian Regimes Decades Ago... If we'd had better screening, their generational offspring's would not be here continually wanting to mess up something, so they can be controlled by their Authoritarian SERF Masters.

The simply do not know how to Live in a Government by the People, For The People.... they don't understand the scope of it.
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