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Old 11-12-2018, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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With the exception of 38 miles in Washington, the entire continental West Coast is now blue



Oh, I know, I know.

"The west coast was very blue to begin with...."

Not True. There had always been many pockets of red. Notice I am using past tense.


"Yeah, the liberal west coast will turn to hell!"

Geez, I'm so scared as I enjoy the great weather, great economy, great food, and great life. This is so hell.


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And Donald Trump is still our great President!

#MAGA
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Originally Posted by beb0p View Post

With the exception of 38 miles in Washington, the entire continental West Coast is now blue



Oh, I know, I know.

"The west coast was very blue to begin with...."

Not True. There had always been many pockets of red. Notice I am using past tense.


"Yeah, the liberal west coast will turn to hell!"

Geez, I'm so scared as I enjoy the great weather, great economy, great food, and great life. This is so hell.


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With living memory, many Oregon liberals once helped to elect two R governors. (McCall and Hatfield)

However, those Rs would today be labeled RINOs and would never win the nomination - although many Oregon liberals would still vote for them.

Still quite a few conservatives out in the rural areas, but they are slowly being outnumbered as liberals move out to the country.
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:45 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Because we don't have snow, hurricane, hail storm, or even thunderstorm to slow it down.

It's just sun, sun, and more sun. Yeah, it's bad.

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drought drought and more drought oh and illegals, lots of illegals and homeless. It's not all fairy tales here.
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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San Andreas fault will sort things out
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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Don't blow your top.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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So the cowboy in Wyoming's struggle is San Francisco, LA, Seattle, Chicago, and NYC's fault?

When will the right-wing start applying the personal responsibility that they talked about so much?

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Seems they forget the basics even......

NYC, Boston and Philly and Baltimore largely created this nation. The 13 Colonies didn't include WY, and states that wished to come into the Union much later sure should not call the tune for a country which already existed VERY successfully previous to helping them out with Federal protection.

If we are Of the People and By the People and FOR the People, it seems pretty simple. People should rule. Not deserts, lakes, bays, oceans, mountains or cows. People. By the numbers.

People have long ago voted with their feet and their money and their investments.

Speaking of Deserts, if AZ. ends up with a Dem. Woman Senator, that will probably make many conservatives seek their safe spaces. Consider - the State that brought us Barry Goldwater! A state with wealthy retirees. A state where you stop at the gas station and see perhaps 4 or 5 sidearms in holsters on folks pumping gas.

With a Democratic Female Senator???
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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Our only hope is that the 'Big one' (earthquake, for those that don't know) will break off Calif, Oregon & Washington all the way back to their borders and slide them under the ocean.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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THAT, sir or madam, is exactly why The Electoral College exists; so that the major population centers can't control the entire country.
Yes, hillary won california and new york, but lost Middle America, and trump ran away with the Electoral College. Those people in "the boonies" gave trump the Presidency!
As one of those boonie dwellers, I love it.
That is also why portions of California want to separate and form their own states. The same applies to Eastern Washington. Perhaps it will happen someday...
Even many of those who live in Western New York State often state emphatically "THIS is NOT New York City!"
So the sparsely populated areas should rule the urban areas? Are you serious? The urban areas are driving the economy and pay more taxes, yet cannot even attempt to keep the environment clean because....manufacturing and mining. This does not make sense at all. It is illogical.

As far as semantics regarding Trump "running away with the electoral college," -- then he should not have. He won due to under 100k votes in three different states.

Those are razor thin margins--Trump has no mandate--never did. There was not 'landslide' big win. In a country this size, Trump won (the Electoral College) with about 85,000 votes. And Hillary did receive over 3,000,000 more.

There is something wrong with this picture.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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And can you give me one reason that the converse should be true? How about if everyone runs their own lives (or states, in this case) the way that works best for them?

Struggle? What struggle. The guy is free. If you'd get out of the city once in awhile, you'd know that.

I don't give a damn about the senate. I'm talking the philosophy of life here. Either you want absolute power over others or you don't. You do. I don't. It's that simple. I want everyone to live as they see fit. You don't. I want everyone to be able to make life choices for themselves. You don't.

How do I know that? Because EVERYTHING you lefties propose is tyranny. Every damn bill, law, regulation, etc, is about nothing more than social engineering and forced dependency. I want none of it. As I said, I want the two coasts and the rest of the nation to get a divorce, because they hate each other and have nothing in common. At that point, it's time for a divorce.
Care to give a few examples of this tyranny? It's difficult to understand where you are coming from without understanding what you define as tyranny.

BTW, the country cannot get a divorce. We're not a married couple. Take some civics courses and learn the process. I'll humor you and ask what your low population, no revenue generating state will do without the support of the coasts?

I agree with the other poster that the Senate gives some of these states too much power. Why should my state of 40 million have the same representation of states with populations under a million??? Plus, I think it is time to get rid of the Electoral College. Our progress is slowed otherwise...
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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Flip side of that, should one guy in Wyoming have as much say as 68 Californians? As that's about what it works out to in Senate representation.
Yes. Because that’s what the Constitution says. If you want that extra horsepower (ha! Horse power! Get it?), feel free to move to a low population state.
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