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What these people don't understand is people with political power are not on your side, they are part of the system that wants to keep power over others.
Popular activism is how things are accomplished, not voting in a democrat and supporting them no matter what they do. That is how we got Libya, Corporate healthcare, and the Bank bailouts.
Popular activism, not playing the 'game' is how change is enacted.
edit: oh, btw, Rashida Tlaib was there to so credit to her.
Disagree. Gandi did pretty well at affecting social change. You don't have to ram your foot down someone else's throat to bring about change. All that does is start revolts, revolutions, and civil wars.
It's all about withdrawing consent, not any sort of activist revolt.
And as far as Cortez, I'm sorry, she's an embarrassment. You guys on the left lauded Obama's "well spoken" demeanor. And while I didn't agree with much of anything he actually did, I will admit that he was generally fairly well spoken and presented himself in a dignified manner most of the time. Cortez on the other hand presents herself as something between a Muppet, a four year old girl, and a valley girl. She just doesn't seem very smart or mature at all. AT LEAST Obama had those two qualities, even if I didn't agree with what he said or did. I don't know what it is with this "little girl" thing the left has going on lately. Ford was another example of a "little girl" persona. You really think that is appealing overall?
Honestly, I LOATHE Pelosi. Hate the woman. But her intellect could run rings around Cortez. Pelosi could eat Cortez alive in a debate.
Disagree. Gandi did pretty well at affecting social change. You don't have to ram your foot down someone else's throat to bring about change. All that does is start revolts, revolutions, and civil wars.
It's all about withdrawing consent, not any sort of activist revolt.
And as far as Cortez, I'm sorry, she's an embarrassment. You guys on the left lauded Obama's "well spoken" demeanor. And while I didn't agree with much of anything he actually did, I will admit that he was generally fairly well spoken and presented himself in a dignified manner most of the time. Cortez on the other hand presents herself as something between a Muppet and a four year old girl. She just doesn't seem very smart or mature at all. AT LEAST Obama had those two qualities, even if I didn't agree with what he said or did. i don't know what it is with this "little girl" thing the left has going on lately. Ford was another example of a "little girl" persona. You really think that is appealing overall?
Honestly, I LOATHE Pelosi. Hate the woman. But her intellect could run rings around Cortez. Pelosi could eat Cortez alive in a debate.
Yeah but she pisses you righties off something fierce. That makes her alright in my book.
Disagree. Gandi did pretty well at affecting social change. You don't have to ram your foot down someone else's throat to bring about change. All that does is start revolts, revolutions, and civil wars.
It's all about withdrawing consent, not any sort of activist revolt.
And as far as Cortez, I'm sorry, she's an embarrassment. You guys on the left lauded Obama's "well spoken" demeanor. And while I didn't agree with much of anything he actually did, I will admit that he was generally fairly well spoken and presented himself in a dignified manner most of the time. Cortez on the other hand presents herself as something between a Muppet and a four year old girl. She just doesn't seem very smart or mature at all. AT LEAST Obama had those two qualities, even if I didn't agree with what he said or did. i don't know what it is with this "little girl" thing the left has going on lately. Ford was another example of a "little girl" persona. You really think that is appealing overall?
I don't care about your last paragraph.
For the former parts, that's my point. It has nothing to do with violence, but popular dissent is how changes is enacted in a forms.
Gandhi had allies within the British colonial rulers, but he did not support them and let them handle the fight, he promoted popular activism.
Same with MLK, the women movement, the abolition movement, and the workers movement in the late 1800s.
I political leader may be pressured to pass positive bills in support of these movements, but they came from the bottom up.
Democrats today love their political leaders like Obama and Nancy without realizing they have to force them to be good or they will support the status quo as they are expected to. Democrats could have stopped the drone war or the bank bailouts if they learned activism wasn't just rallying behind your party leaders.
Yeah but she pisses you righties off something fierce. That makes her alright in my book.
Not me. I can barely keep from rolling my eyes and laughing at the woman every time she opens her mouth. The cookie monster would have been a better choice.
Now, Pelosi does pizz me off. But at least she has a brain.
For the former parts, that's my point. It has nothing to do with violence, but popular dissent is how changes is enacted in a forms.
Gandhi had allies within the British colonial rulers, but he did not support them and let them handle the fight, he promoted popular activism.
Same with MLK, the women movement, the abolition movement, and the workers movement in the late 1800s.
I political leader may be pressured to pass positive bills in support of these movements, but they came from the bottom up.
Democrats today love their political leaders like Obama and Nancy without realizing they have to force them to be good or they will support the status quo as they are expected to. Democrats could have stopped the drone war or the bank bailouts if they learned activism wasn't just rallying behind your party leaders.
But a lot of those movements revolved around violence. And it was often directed at those who had nothing at all to do with the problem, which to me, is just terrorism with new lipstick.
Only my opinion, but social change in whatever flavor you want to talk about, would best be brought about by an entire population of Henry David Thoreau(s). You can't put an entire nation in jail. Simply refuse to comply en mass. That would bring the entire system to a screeching halt. (if, of course, that were the intent)
But a lot of those movements revolved around violence. And it was often directed at those who had nothing at all to do with the problem, which to me, is just terrorism with new lipstick.
Only my opinion, but social change in whatever flavor you want to talk about, would best be brought about by an entire population of Henry David Thoreau(s). You can't put an entire nation in jail. Simply refuse to comply en mass. That would bring the entire system to a screeching halt. (if, of course, that were the intent)
The difference between violent protests and Gandhi is pretty wide.
Anyways all of them are popular movements that support economic and social change. Change has never come and never will come from the people in power, as by the nature of their power radical change is a threat to them.
This is why Cortez will be up against a heavily funded opponent and smear campaign next time she enters the primaries.
Hopefully. Because I think you guys can do better than that. She's just not very bright at all. Most of the time she comes off as being clueless and dingy. I think the appeal is a pretty face. Nothing else it could be.
This is why Cortez will be up against a heavily funded opponent and smear campaign next time she enters the primaries.
Just wait till some of the ‘democrats’ come on this thread and say AOC needs to grow up and support the party establishment.
The concept that the Dems and republicans are on the same side is foreign to them, despite slight differences.
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