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"Let's replace the puppet show with actual leadership."
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Once upon a time, the OP said:
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Originally Posted by bmexman
This corporate greed and fuel for mindless consumerism needs to stop, we need to get back to having holidays being for what they are meant to be. I live in France now and EVERYTHING non-essential is closed on holidays! Because it is mandated by the government and it needs to be the same in the USA! It should be ILLEGAL for retailers and all other non-essential services to be open on Thanksgiving or any other holiday for that matter, give the holidays back to employees and let them have their holidays back!
I would rather have this "socialism" than this unchecked corporate greed we have now.
....to lead to this....
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Originally Posted by Joe the Photog
What about gas stations? Also, should grocery stores be closed? When I worked in grocery, Thanksgiving mornings were always busy as folks had to come in for just a few things that they had overlooked. What about stores owned and run by people not from America who don't celebrate Thanksgiving or Christmas.
I'll be honest. I hate the commercialization of Christmas and even moreso now that it's spilling over into Thanksgiving. But we don't need laws for tis. We just need people to stop shopping on Thanksgiving and Black Friday.
I guess the OP doesn't need to buy gas or a few extra groceries should a need actually arise? People can't have everything shut down. And, no, we don't need any more laws and restrictions.
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007
The only thing I want open on Thanksgiving is Starbucks.
Because it's for the good of everyone. And mindless consumerism and corporate greed must be controlled.
According to who? You? And what makes you the expert? I don't shop on holidays, but that is my choice. Many folks depend on that extra income. Many businesses dont pay for lost hours due to holidays.
So here is a unique idea. You don't like stores to be open on holidays? Great stay at home and ignore them. Problem solved.
You know as a person who works; I wasn't that thrilled. Also, as a single person who has moved several times - not everyone always has a family to celebrate holidays with. Those are the ones who volunteer. But they should ABSOLUTELY be paid double time, time and a half - whatever.
You know as a person who works; I wasn't that thrilled. Also, as a single person who has moved several times - not everyone always has a family to celebrate holidays with. Those are the ones who volunteer. But they should ABSOLUTELY be paid double time, time and a half - whatever.
You'll have to come up with something more original.
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Originally Posted by bmexman
And mindless consumerism and corporate greed must be controlled.
Only 3% of US businesses are corporations. The employ a tiny 5.8% of all workers.
Would your law apply only to the 3% of businesses that are corporations or would it also apply to the other 97% of businesses that are not corporations?
I think now most people prefer it this way. I’m just saying I’m glad I got to see and experience things before all this Christmas decorations in August started. But certainly if an employer is open employees will work. Some will be glad for extra money and some would rather be home. If someone wants to work let them work.
It IS illegal to be open on Thanksgiving in RI, Maine, and Mass. Certain companies can petition to stay open, like restaurants. But there is no way to sell liquor.
So the OP seems to have solved the problem as it might pertain to him by living in France. Maybe he would experience less stress if he just focused on that and left other people alone to do what seems in their best interests. Having a temper tantrum over when businesses choose to do business in other countries seems unnecessarily stressful and pointless. It can't be good for him.
This corporate greed and fuel for mindless consumerism needs to stop, we need to get back to having holidays being for what they are meant to be. I live in France now and EVERYTHING non-essential is closed on holidays! Because it is mandated by the government and it needs to be the same in the USA! It should be ILLEGAL for retailers and all other non-essential services to be open on Thanksgiving or any other holiday for that matter, give the holidays back to employees and let them have their holidays back!
I would rather have this "socialism" than this unchecked corporate greed we have now.
As much as I DETEST Black Friday, let alone the ABOMINABLE Black Thursday where they actually ruin Thanksgiving itself, and that Black Friday pushes consumerism, which has helped us become a nasty debt economy and also, just as bad, has served to greatly contradict everything Thanksgiving is supposed to be about, I think that naming the bad actors and shaming them into closing on Thanksgiving will be better than giving our already despotic government even more power:
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