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I mean, the issue is not really up for debate anymore. Trump ran his campaign on building the Wall, and that is why he got elected.
So, why are Democrats trying to oppose Trump on this?
Because a majority of Americans did vote against him in 2016. He has no mandate to build a wall on the southern Border. Republicans also were roundly rejected in the midterms.
So now it's both parties who want open borders and Trump is the only one to want secure borders? Are you for real?
Trump isn't the only one who wants to secure the border. Many middle class Americans with common sense want the border secured. But Trump may be the only politician (or certainly one of the only ones) who really wants it.
Trump isn't the only one who wants to secure the border. Many middle class Americans with common sense want the border secured. But Trump may be the only politician (or certainly one of the only ones) who really wants it.
No. Pretty much no one wants open borders. It would be a disaster and all the but the big city uber lib
SJWs (who are just as ignorant about the border as 20 foot wall loving southern trailer park righties - although fortunately there are a lot less of SJW's).
Come on out here and spend some time between Antelope Wells, NM and Nogales, AZ and tell me how effective a wall would be, how anyone would pay for it (bringing in concrete loads via helicopter?) and why would need it there because even desperate immigrants aren't mountain goats.
I'm a dem, I live on the border and I don't want open borders nor does anyone else I know here either right or left. It would be a disaster of epic proportions.
Here's the numbers (I repeat these continually on CD to little avail).
No. Pretty much no one wants open borders. It would be a disaster and all the but the big city uber lib
SJWs (who are just as ignorant about the border as 20 foot wall loving southern trailer park righties - although fortunately there are a lot less of SJW's).
Come on out here and spend some time between Antelope Wells, NM and Nogales, AZ and tell me how effective a wall would be, how anyone would pay for it (bringing in concrete loads via helicopter?) and why would need it there because even desperate immigrants aren't mountain goats.
I'm a dem, I live on the border and I don't want open borders nor does anyone else I know here either right or left. It would be a disaster of epic proportions.
Here's the numbers (I repeat these continually on CD to little avail).
At MOST 18% of Americans support open borders. Not enough to ever make it happen or to warrant any of your tears. It will never happen.
OK then why hasn't it happened in all of these years, why don't we have e verify in place and why hasn't Congress appropriated the money that was supposed to be done 12 years ago? Why aren't we arresting people left and right -- employers and illegals, it's not like it's real difficult to find these people.
Perhaps the politicians really do want open borders and just wont' tell you.
OK then why hasn't it happened in all of these years, why don't we have e verify in place and why hasn't Congress appropriated the money that was supposed to be done 12 years ago? Why aren't we arresting people left and right -- employers and illegals, it's not like it's real difficult to find these people.
Perhaps the politicians really do want open borders and just wont' tell you.
Your getting to the truth now. It would be much cheaper and much more effective to put the sanctuary employers in prison. Problem is, white people would be going down. Trump doesn't want that.
Your getting to the truth now. It would be much cheaper and much more effective to put the sanctuary employers in prison. Problem is, white people would be going down. Trump doesn't want that.
OK then why hasn't it happened in all of these years, why don't we have e verify in place and why hasn't Congress appropriated the money that was supposed to be done 12 years ago? Why aren't we arresting people left and right -- employers and illegals, it's not like it's real difficult to find these people.
Perhaps the politicians really do want open borders and just wont' tell you.
We spend billions on border security. While I agree it's not enough you act as if we actually have open borders and President Trump is the only politician who is trying to secure our borders. This is nonsense. He just has a really radical idea that not everyone thinks is going to solve the problem.
And again the key is he said Mexico would pay for it. He didn't say by back door methods, he said implied they would be cutting checks. Now he wants us to pay for it and that's not what he promised.
To answer the OP's question, it's obvious to anyone with a brain that dares to use it, that Trump's propaganda campaign to convince the simple minded that we should be very, very afraid of "rapists and terrorists" pouring over the border, and that Mexico would pay to "build a wall" to prevent it - worked very well.
Sure it was one of the reasons Trump got elected. It just wasn't a VALID reason.
OK then why hasn't it happened in all of these years, why don't we have e verify in place and why hasn't Congress appropriated the money that was supposed to be done 12 years ago? Why aren't we arresting people left and right -- employers and illegals, it's not like it's real difficult to find these people.
Perhaps the politicians really do want open borders and just wont' tell you.
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Your getting to the truth now. It would be much cheaper and much more effective to put the sanctuary employers in prison. Problem is, white people would be going down. Trump doesn't want that.
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Originally Posted by Natural510
Trump is one of them
There's the answer to your question.
I'll point out that as porous as our borders are, if we had truly open borders it would be a much different scenario. Saving up a year salary to pay the coyotes limits the number of people that attempt an illegal crossing. Let alone the prospect of that arduous journey across a pretty hellish landscape. We love the desert here but it's very unforgiving.
I mean, the issue is not really up for debate anymore. Trump ran his campaign on building the Wall, and that is why he got elected.
So, why are Democrats trying to oppose Trump on this?
That’s not why I voted for Trump.
Trump campaigned on building the wall and MEXICO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
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