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Old 12-15-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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Gee isn't this what Bill Clinton did too?
Lots of women,settlements and Hillary still hounding Bill over his sexual prowess.
Congress has a taxpayers slush fund for misbehaving members to sweep their sexual escapades under the rug.Clinton lied under oath was impeached but not removed if Trump lied then he is toast removal maybe difficult.
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Old 12-15-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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Yeah, the Russians want nothing more than to make nice nice with us. Putin is a kitten, a Saint, and so very misunderstood by a lot of people.

If you believe the above, you are either Donald Trump, or delusional.

I believe Peter Strzok.

He testified that he received sections of the Steele Dossier (a product of Russian intelligence) directly from Bruce Ohr after the FBI had officially cut ties with British spy Christopher Steele.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...route-hillary/


Whether or not the Obama DOJ spied on an opposing party presidential campaign is not dependent of the sort of person Putin might happen to be.

Now that we are more than two years into the cover-up of that spying and the following attempted coup of a duly elected US president, Putin's character is still irrelevant to Strzok's watergate-on-steroids insurance policy against a Trump victory.
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Old 12-15-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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Mueller is playing chess, taking the pawns and knights off the board, and Trumpees are trying to toss the board before the Queen gets cornered.
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Old 12-15-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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I guess these criminal investigations are fraud too. Nice try.

Mounting legal threats surround Trump as nearly every organization he has led is under investigation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.be4b0accbd10

Trump's campaign, transition, inaugural committee and presidency are now under active criminal investigation. His business -- the Trump Organization -- and his defunct charity -- The Trump Foundation are also under investigation (the charity investigation is a civil one). His college -- Trump University -- has already been deemed a fraud.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/15/polit...sia/index.html
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Old 12-15-2018, 12:14 PM
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I believe Peter Strzok.

He testified that he received sections of the Steele Dossier (a product of Russian intelligence) directly from Bruce Ohr after the FBI had officially cut ties with British spy Christopher Steele.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...route-hillary/


Whether or not the Obama DOJ spied on an opposing party presidential campaign is not dependent of the sort of person Putin might happen to be.

Now that we are more than two years into the cover-up of that spying and the following attempted coup of a duly elected US president, Putin's character is still irrelevant to Strzok's watergate-on-steroids insurance policy against a Trump victory.
Steele the man who spied on Russia for MI6, on behalf of the real life Her Majesty's Secret Service, you know that Secret Service of James Bond fame, was helping the Russians.

Steele was quite senior in th Secret Intelligence Service, and was sent to Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan as part of an MI6 team, briefing Special Forces on "kill or capture" missions for Taliban targets, and also spent time teaching new MI6 recruits.

So that terrble traitor Steele as Trump fans would have you believe, was helping the US and her allies in the 'War on Terror', whilst Trump with his terible foot spur was safely in NYC, doing didgy deals involving Russian money and declaring bankruptcies.

Steele returned to London and between 2006 and 2009 he headed the Russia Desk at MI6.Steele's expertise on Russia remained valued, and he served as a senior officer under John Scarlett, Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), from 2004 to 2009.

Steele was selected as case officer for Alexander Litvinenko and participated in the investigation of the Litvinenko poisoning in 2006.It was Steele who quickly realised that Litvinenko's death "was a Russian state 'hit'".

Twelve years later he allegedly was included himself in a hit list of the Russian Federal Security Service, along with Sergei Skripal who was poisoned in 2018 by a binary chemical weapon Novichok in Britain.

Btw if you are a James Bond fan then 'M' who has most recently been played by Dame Judy Dench is in reality 'Sir Richard Dearlove' and others and just look what they have to say.

So to prentend a man Steele was somehow working with the Russians is just beyond any credibility at all.

'Dirty dossier' on Donald Trump is probably credible, says former MI6 boss - The Telegraph

British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia | The Guardian

Trump Dossier Claims Have Credibility, Says Former Spy Chief - Newsweek

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Also on the Kremlin's list, he says, were several other ex-KGB agents, as well as Christopher Steele, author of a 35-page dossier alleging collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. Bill Browder, the driving force behind a set of U.S. sanctions against Russian individuals known as the Magnitsky Act, was there as well, he adds.

Russian ex-spy says he was on Kremlin 'hit list' along with poisoned Skripal - NBC News


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Old 12-15-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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Legally, Trump did nothing wrong with his hooker payments. He used his own money ....

there is no evidence to support this claim.


cohen paid daniels. giuliani confirmed this but claimed cohen was repaid ( most likely from the trump organization ) in payments going well into 2017.


AMI paid mcdougal ( it's unclear if they were expecting repayment and from whom ).


also, if daniels was a hooker and trump had directly paid her for sex then trump and cohen would be in even bigger trouble for obstruction of justice ( it's a felony to buy the silence of a witness to a crime even if that witness is a participant in that crime ).
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Old 12-15-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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Legally, Trump did nothing wrong with his hooker payments. He used his own money ....
Trump NEVER uses his own money. Much campaign money went to pay off personal legal fees, lawsuits, Trump University settlement...
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Old 12-17-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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Steele the man who spied on Russia for MI6, on behalf of the real life Her Majesty's Secret Service, you know that Secret Service of James Bond fame, was helping the Russians.

Steele was quite senior in th Secret Intelligence Service, and was sent to Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan as part of an MI6 team, briefing Special Forces on "kill or capture" missions for Taliban targets, and also spent time teaching new MI6 recruits.

So that terrble traitor Steele as Trump fans would have you believe, was helping the US and her allies in the 'War on Terror', whilst Trump with his terible foot spur was safely in NYC, doing didgy deals involving Russian money and declaring bankruptcies.

Steele returned to London and between 2006 and 2009 he headed the Russia Desk at MI6.Steele's expertise on Russia remained valued, and he served as a senior officer under John Scarlett, Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), from 2004 to 2009.

Steele was selected as case officer for Alexander Litvinenko and participated in the investigation of the Litvinenko poisoning in 2006.It was Steele who quickly realised that Litvinenko's death "was a Russian state 'hit'".

Twelve years later he allegedly was included himself in a hit list of the Russian Federal Security Service, along with Sergei Skripal who was poisoned in 2018 by a binary chemical weapon Novichok in Britain.

Btw if you are a James Bond fan then 'M' who has most recently been played by Dame Judy Dench is in reality 'Sir Richard Dearlove' and others and just look what they have to say.

So to prentend a man Steele was somehow working with the Russians is just beyond any credibility at all.

'Dirty dossier' on Donald Trump is probably credible, says former MI6 boss - The Telegraph

British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia | The Guardian

Trump Dossier Claims Have Credibility, Says Former Spy Chief - Newsweek



He may walk on water, but that doesn't change any of the facts.

Steele was employed by Fusion GPS, as was the wife of DOJ's Bruce Ohr.

Nellie Ohr refused to testify before Congress claiming spousal privilege while Bruce Ohr pleaded the Fifth.

The person he gave sections of the Dossier to, Peter Strzok, also pleaded the Fifth before Congress.



FTR, the FBI doesn't share your confidence in Steele or his Dossier...

"On four occasions, the FBI told the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance (FISA) court that it "did not believe" former British spy Christopher Steele was the direct source for a Yahoo News article implicating former Trump aide Carter Page in Russian collusion, newly released documents reveal. Instead, the FBI suggested to the court, the September 2016 article by Michael Isikoff was independent corroboration of the salacious, unverified allegations against Trump in the infamous Steele Dossier. Federal authorities used both the Steele Dossier and Yahoo News article to convince the FISA court to authorize a surveillance warrant for Page. But London court records show that contrary to the FBI's assessments, Steele briefed Yahoo News and other reporters in the fall of 2016 at the direction of Fusion GPS -- the opposition research firm behind the dossier."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi...team-docs-show
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Old 12-17-2018, 09:40 AM
 
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The Trump dossier had been shopped around to the media since late 2015 and no news outlet picked it up because they and the domestic intelligence agencies found the document to lack credibility.

Trump dossier is fake

The only reason it's still being discussed is because it was presented before the FISA court to launch an investigation and the CIA wanted the FISA court to investigate Trump to get them to commit a crime in the course of being deposed by the special prosecutor. As promised by Brennan, the CIA and the media are going after Trump because he used the public's distrust of both organizations as a platform to get elected.
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Old 12-17-2018, 10:18 AM
 
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Russiagate is a fraud

Thanks for sharing.


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