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Trump is pushing prison reform and has said he will revisit declassifying marijuana as a schedule I drug.
He has SAID every side of every issue. The fact that you would believe him is amazing.
Jeff Sessions is like a drug warrior from 20-30 years back.
Trump and Sessions and others called for EXECUTION of Drug Dealers - I guess that reforms prisons because they are not needed for dead people.
The new proposed AG, Barr, is another Ultimate Drug Warrior.
"n 1992, for example, Barr’s Justice Department circulated a working paper titled, “The Case for More Incarceration.”"
"“It’s hard to imagine an attorney general as bad as Jeff Sessions when it comes to criminal justice and the drug war, but Trump seems to have found one,” Michael Collins, the director of national affairs for the Drug Policy Alliance, said in a statement."
East, I'm serious....this is opposite backwards world. What possibly makes you think Trump would hire the worst of the worst...and that they all would suddenly become enlightened? If you want reform you hire reformers.
It should be obvious when liberal states like MA. decrim and even sell recreationally. I can head down to the dispensary and buy 100's of different products. It is already legal in MA to be stoned or high....has been for many years.
So tell us again how Republicans are leading this effort? I thought Co. and Ca. and Ma. and Wa. etc. were the leaders....none of these places are Trumpsville...in fact, the very opposite.
So, no, you can't have Trump "give me pot" or "give me money from debt and deficit" to buy me off.
Did Obama or Bill Clinton do anything as great as Prison Reform?
I voted for him twice, but the only way Clinton reformed prisons was through the toughest crime bill in history, leading to the incarceration of millions of black males.
And when people questioned this at the time the first lady supported it by saying, 'these people are super predators and need to be taken to heel.'
So I think you can take Clinton out of the equation, given his record.
This has been a bipartisan proposal before Trump took office, the OP's red hat is a little too tight. I don't think Trump even realized what was in the bill.
Did Obama or Bill Clinton do anything as great as Prison Reform?
Seems like an odd situation. You have voiced how you have no compassion for immigrants, but you are now saying Trump has done something good for people who have been proven to be law breakers .
I guess if they are American born criminals, that somehow makes them better.
The problem that has caused prison reform to happen isn't in the state court system. Probation and early parole is commonly granted in the state courts, but not in the federal court system. In the Federal courts, it's prohibited by law to let a prisoner go free early.
And in drug cases, a Federal sentence will carry 20 years or more, where in state court, the same offense will carry 5 or less.
Simple possession is now a misdemeanor in some states, but in Federal court, it can put a guy behind bars for over a decade.
The Federal prisons are clogged and full to the brim with non-violent drug offenders. Some first-offense prisoners who never committed a crime before have now done 30 or more years for offenses that would have timed out at 5 years in state court.
They are taking up far too much prison space, and their appeals are clogging the Federal courts as well.
The laws under which they were sentenced were written back in the 70s and 80s, when there was a lot of rampant crime, and the public was yelling for harsher penalties. Back when marijuana possession was still a felony in most states.
All the reform bill essentially does is return some discretionary powers of sentencing back to the judges on the Federal benches.
A violent or repeat offender can still get life with no parole, but if a judge has the discretion, he can sentence a drug mule to 5 years instead of the 20 he's mandated to sentence now, or be able to award probation for good behavior, but he cannot do either now.
The laws need updating. Violent crime has been on a long slow decrease throughout the 21st century, while non-violent drug crimes, especially involving opioids, have massively increased, and otherwise law-abiding folks with fentanyl habits are being sent away for decades. For some, especially those who are middle-aged, a Federal sentence is a lifetime sentence that has no probation, no parole.
Only appeal. One appeal after another after another.
Last edited by banjomike; 12-15-2018 at 08:18 PM..
Do believe the "prison reform" is to privatize the prison system. Trump has business bud s lined up to take it over. The current trump tents along the border that incarcerate the border crossers is an example.
Basically, its Trump and Betsy Devoss university $$ fraud but they r criminals not students, so this scheme has little chance of blowing up on them like the for profit universities these two were involved in.
Do believe the "prison reform" is to privatize the prison system. Trump has business bud s lined up to take it over. The current trump tents along the border that incarcerate the border crossers is an example.
Basically, its Trump and Betsy Devoss university $$ fraud but they r criminals not students, so this scheme has little chance of blowing up on them like the for profit universities these two were involved in.
"When the President does it - that automatically makes it legal"......
But, truly, more likely the post above saying Trump has no idea what is in the bill is more likely. Dems have been pushing for criminal justice reform for a while while Republicans (only some) came around a little when they started smoking enough pot or realized how much it was costing them in $$.
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