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I read the whole entire article. First off. I want to say that I'm a centrist at heart, well left of center, but I subscribe as a centrist or moderate, however not with the pro corporate agenda such as support for big business, or taking money from banks and finance groups. As a centrist, I dislike radical feminism, radical social justice activists, radical woke or conscious black ideologues and identities, but I also dislike white nationalism, alt-right, radical black conservatives, and radical Christian conservatives. If these groups I mentioned were to run America, I would be placed in prison or executed for my ideology. As a centrist, it would be wise to suppress free speech and so on so that such groups don't have a say or a seat at the table. Not to say that I wont do that. I believe in free speech and those have a right to have a voice justs as long as they don't threaten to kill individuals or groups.
2nd of all, America is not a democracy. America is a limited democracy, and its a Republic and not a full Democracy like Athens. America system of government is similar to that of Medieval Venice, and Pre Imperial Rome which were Republics in their own right. In Athens Greece due to the city being a full democracy, men would vote for tyrants, vote for the extermination of peoples. Hell the Athenian people even voted for the execution of Socrates, one of the greatest minds in human history.
Rather if it is far left, center or far right. Such groups fear each other. Here in American politics, the corporate center left and center right virtue signal left, but both groups don't really mean it when elections are over, and such politicians go back to same old, same old ways. This is not good and disingenuous imo. What we are seeing in France for example, both the left and the right are teaming up and going against the centrist government of macron who placed oppressive tax policies on the French people. Both left and right camps had to ally with themselves to fight for what is right for all French people. Can SJW's Feminists, conscious blacks, native Americans team up with white nationalist, alt right, black conservatives, and Christian conservatives, and take down 300 million centrists?
I will go get some popcorn. However any is possible.
That’s all good. I don’t agree with you on representative democracy being a good thing, but that’s fine.
But it’s still important to know that media elite take people like you and attach them to support for corporations and war.
That is why independents are put in the affirmative for radicals like Bloomberg and Deval Patrick.
That’s all good. I don’t agree with you on representative democracy being a good thing, but that’s fine.
But it’s still important to know that media elite take people like you and attach them to support for corporations and war.
That is why independents are put in the affirmative for radicals like Bloomberg and Deval Patrick.
I'm an independent. I have to say that no system of government is perfect and most or all systems of government makes it possible for an autocratic leader to rise. Democracy, Republicanism, Monarchism, theocracy, oligarchy, aristocracy, facist/Nazi/socialist/communism all can have an autocratic leader that can suppress and oppress either the majority, or minority groups, even if that leader is elected. This is why checks and balances are important.
I read the whole entire article. First off. I want to say that I'm a centrist at heart, well left of center, but I subscribe as a centrist or moderate, however not with the pro corporate agenda such as support for big business, or taking money from banks and finance groups. As a centrist, I dislike radical feminism, radical social justice activists, radical woke or conscious black ideologues and identities, but I also dislike white nationalism, alt-right, radical black conservatives, and radical Christian conservatives. If these groups I mentioned were to run America, I would be placed in prison or executed for my ideology. As a centrist, it would be wise to suppress free speech and so on so that such groups don't have a say or a seat at the table. Not to say that I wont do that. I believe in free speech and those have a right to have a voice justs as long as they don't threaten to kill individuals or groups.
2nd of all, America is not a democracy. America is a limited democracy, and its a Republic and not a full Democracy like Athens. America system of government is similar to that of Medieval Venice, and Pre Imperial Rome which were Republics in their own right. In Athens Greece due to the city being a full democracy, men would vote for tyrants, vote for the extermination of peoples. Hell the Athenian people even voted for the execution of Socrates, one of the greatest minds in human history.
Rather if it is far left, center or far right. Such groups fear each other. Here in American politics, the corporate center left and center right virtue signal left, but both groups don't really mean it when elections are over, and such politicians go back to same old, same old ways. This is not good and disingenuous imo. What we are seeing in France for example, both the left and the right are teaming up and going against the centrist government of macron who placed oppressive tax policies on the French people. Both left and right camps had to ally with themselves to fight for what is right for all French people. Can SJW's Feminists, conscious blacks, native Americans team up with white nationalist, alt right, black conservatives, and Christian conservatives, and take down 300 million centrists?
I will go get some popcorn. However any is possible.
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You are right but nearly ever one reading this will say " not me". Then on election day the same people will practice their democracy and go and vote for corporate whores and war mongers. And be so proud to wear their red,white, and blue stickers that say " I Voted "
But sometimes our leaders are slick like Obama for example who in 2008 sounded like he was going to be a peace and less interventionist POTUS. We all know how that worked out Obama was such a war monger it made Dick Cheney blush. In his first term is was plain as day that Obama loved him some bankers and corporations as long as they were environmental friendly.
What happened in 2012 The people had no choice it was in the cards that they would elect a fascist leader who would also be a war monger. But some how the people think that their vote counted and they are just a great Patriot for casting it. Voters are liked trained zombies they have broke into 2 camps and the majority of this country votes a straight party ticket. Well done!!!!!! {seal clap}
Always interesting to watch people compare a drone strike in Somalia or Yemen to the invasion of Iraq.
somehow you want to claim the 2 are contextually the same.
I will read in a bit... im not really fond of the centrists.
but when you suggest that "direct democracy" is a good thing, you loose me.
The founders understood that the single greatest threat to democracy is DIRECT democracy.
They wrote extensively about it. they understood the very simple principle that direct democracy was mob rule.
They understood something that our education system seems to have lost. That very basic principle that in a direct democracy, "he who controls the mob... rules"
We are a representative republic. we have institutions that are designed to smooth the process and insure that we don't end democracy by democratic means.
This is a vital point. anyone advocating for direct democracy is not someone I can find common ground with.
I do believe we have reached a point where some of our institutions have been co-opted and they need reform (enter TheDonald).
but that is a vastly different issue. Direct Democracy is NO ANSWER.
Most people like less taxes and more more governmental services.
Which are both Right and Left ideology.
There are just a minuscule number of Facists or Communists in a society!
Most hover around the middle.. Just like any Bell Curve.
The main problem with the US system is the TWO party system.
In most other countries there are many more parties to cater to the voters needs.
A duopoly is almost as bad as monopoly.
When you call the FBI "fascists" all you do is destroy your own credibility and lose anyone who might have been taking your post seriously.
Bingo.
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