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Old 01-08-2019, 06:30 AM
 
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Who actually relies on their tax return? Maybe to 47% who don't pay taxes and gets $$$$ back....
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Good grief. Trump is not the man of the people. He’s just a ******. He’s been wanting to run for many years but he was a democrat. He knew he couldn’t win the nomination so he decided to become a conservative. He brought out the very worst in people with his lies, like the chanting of “lock her up”. He encouraged the divisions in our country and still continues to do so
Trump didn't leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left him.
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:37 AM
 
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Trump is a man of the people, no denying that.
There is plenty to deny that. When has he every done anything other than for himself? I see no one coming forward from the "thousands" of people he claimed to employ talking about how great he is, and that he is a man of the people. Don't see any of them. And just where are these companies located where he employs thousands of people as he claims? He's a fraud, a con man and a swindler. Where is this man of the people's tax returns he said he would release? He lies.
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:40 AM
 
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You are in North Korea. Obama was a great President and well respected. Obama can be reasoned with and could agree on a deal, Trump is a baby blimp and it's his way or no way at all.
Now see, I think both are the same. The difference is you can see it coming with Trump, and Obama was so respected you couldn't hold him accountable.

Flint Michigan was one of many Obama disasters. He sided with the governor and tried to tell those people their water was fine when it wasn't. They had hope in Obama, and he let them down. It is a lot harder fall when you're dealing with Obama. At least with Trump, you can see the corruption.
, the writings on the wall. We are America, and we are about the money, not the people. Grab some while you can.

Trumps in office because the government has been corrupt for years, he's the result, not the cause. We can only fix it when people realize this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjugN-nUHh8

This is a feisty crowd Obama??? Try a poisoned crowd!

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Old 01-08-2019, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Trump didn't leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left him.
That would mean Trump has/had core beliefs which most thinking people understands he never has had core beliefs.
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:41 AM
 
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Trump didn't leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left him.
Actually before Trump ran for the GOP. Primary he had never registered as a GOP voter
He was advised to do that prior to running in the primary by Steve Bannon and (I believe) Sam Nunberg when they came to him and advised him about becoming a candidate
Trump gave money to GOP politicians because he always played the odds and the odds said that GOP in state legislature and some national offices had impact on his business--so he contributed to them just as he did the Dems
He was an "equal opportunity" buy-your-vote donor...

And while I would love to say the Dems left Trump---he really moved out of the Dem Party when he considered running for 3rd party Presidential race twice before...
At that point in time he wasn't willing to go as far to the right as Pat Buchannan was
He subsequently changed his mind and took up the Obama-was-born-in-Kenya faction to become the candidate of the alt-right fringe groups...
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:44 AM
 
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There is plenty to deny that. When has he every done anything other than for himself? I see no one coming forward from the "thousands" of people he claimed to employ talking about how great he is, and that he is a man of the people. Don't see any of them. And just where are these companies located where he employs thousands of people as he claims? He's a fraud, a con man and a swindler. Where is this man of the people's tax returns he said he would release? He lies.


Where are the Federal employees who support his decision to stop government to force capitulation on the wall?
Don't see that group Trump claims supports his action...
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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That would mean Trump has/had core beliefs which most thinking people understands he never has had core beliefs.
He started his campaign as a joke. Surprised himself I think. He didn't expect to win, had no speech ready, and was just as amazed as the rest of the country.

I think he quite enjoys being the middle finger for America.
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Is there any starker difference between the two? Obama wanted pain and suffering.

There is no starker difference than the calendar.

Most people file their taxes on or before the annual due date, 4/15. Most who expect a refund file well before the 4/15 deadline.

In 2013, more than 90% of refunds were issued during the period of Jan- April, consistent with all years.

The number of refunds thereafter substantially declines and are typically related to filing extensions .The number of refunds in the 4th quarter are typically less than 1% of all annual refunds.

In contrast, this shutdown is entering prime tax filing/ refund season. If it protracts, it has the potential to impact a majority of refunds. Trump ordered refunds to occur on time. IRS is determining how many of its employees it will bring back to achieve timely refunds.
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Good grief. Trump is not the man of the people. He’s just a ******. He’s been wanting to run for many years but he was a democrat. He knew he couldn’t win the nomination so he decided to become a conservative. He brought out the very worst in people with his lies, like the chanting of “lock her up”. He encouraged the divisions in our country and still continues to do so
You do realize that Hillary, were she anyone else, would have been locked up long ago, right?

I get so tired of the left feigning ignorance on this issue.

Yes, she deliberately destroyed e-mails that belonged to the federal government and that were under both a preservation requirement and a subpoena.

You don't get to pretend that none of that matters or that the extraordinary measures that were taken by the Obama DOJ and FBI to avoid charging her with any crime (let alone the multiple felonies she committed) is in any way acceptable or tolerable.

You also don't get to pretend that the Strzok "insurance policy" against an undesired election result, the one concocted in McCabe's office, isn't the Russia probe or that it isn't a ****ing coup!
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