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Old 01-13-2019, 11:54 PM
 
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Very biased comment. Are you not a US citizen. So President Trump is our President. The same when President Obama was in office, whether I liked him or not, he was still my President.

Go do some research. There are a high number of dems who were also in support of a wall.
I did research and while more ppl are getting "High"...dems and repubs alike. I realize now most are passing the MJ law so they can smoke it while being BS'd too by this Leader who shall be out in two years. :P

The US Supreme Court guards and works with the framework of the constitution. I do not recall the border wall being written into it to decipher or decide.

Yes the Reality Check bill was paid already....Unsure anyone is disputing who took the oath of office. What is central is how this particular ill equiped one is choosing to distort the power to fit his personal agenda.
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Old 01-14-2019, 02:47 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Is Trump blind? The money for the Wall is right in front of his eyes! Take it! Take it!

Where: Shaving off $5 billion in aid to Israel, shaving off $5 billion from the military budget, he can take his pick!

In fact, how about shaving off another $5 billion and making it $10 billion!
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Trump and McConnell are both playing by the rules of the process. The constitution gives Trump veto power and there is no use for McConnell to bring legislation to the Senate floor that will just be vetoed by Trump. It needs more bipartisan support at least, which the House bill did not try to get. It was just a lame half-hearted gesture trying to claim they're doing something when in reality they're not.
I disagree. The support was there before Christmas and Trump agreed to sign the bill. McConnell should have brought the vote forward in spite of Trump's flip flop. That is the way the process is supposed to work. If Trump wanted to veto the bill? So be it. It's up to the house and senate to over ride the bill by a two-thirds vote. What Trump and McConnell is doing is not the way our constitution works.

FOX 13 Salt Lake City: President Trump will not sign funding measure passed by Senate to avert government shutdown. " That provided an opening for Republican lawmakers to begin proceedings on a measure that would provide funding for nine federal agencies through February. That bill PASSED THE SENATE on Wednesday morning. But on Thursday morning, the future of that plan was thrust into question after Trump tweeted his frustration at having to swallow another spending measure that doesn't include funds for the wall. "
This is obviously an old article. Trump is not behaving like a president, he's behaving like a dictator and McConnell is enabling him. Harming hundreds of thousands of American's is not presidential. It's despicable.

Does Trump really want a wall or does he want a political football? Wasn't he offered 25 billion for the wall with a DACA compromise? The cost of "the wall" is projected to be between 20 billion and 70 billion. What is he going to do with 5 billion? Perhaps it's more about the way he looks to the base. Look at me I'm the tough guy fighting for the wall. Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of American's are suffering. Think about how despicable that is.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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I disagree. The support was there before Christmas and Trump agreed to sign the bill. McConnell should have brought the vote forward in spite of Trump's flip flop. That is the way the process is supposed to work. If Trump wanted to veto the bill? So be it. It's up to the house and senate to over ride the bill by a two-thirds vote. What Trump and McConnell is doing is not the way our constitution works.

FOX 13 Salt Lake City: President Trump will not sign funding measure passed by Senate to avert government shutdown. " That provided an opening for Republican lawmakers to begin proceedings on a measure that would provide funding for nine federal agencies through February. That bill PASSED THE SENATE on Wednesday morning. But on Thursday morning, the future of that plan was thrust into question after Trump tweeted his frustration at having to swallow another spending measure that doesn't include funds for the wall. "
This is obviously an old article. Trump is not behaving like a president, he's behaving like a dictator and McConnell is enabling him. Harming hundreds of thousands of American's is not presidential. It's despicable.

Does Trump really want a wall or does he want a political football? Wasn't he offered 25 billion for the wall with a DACA compromise? The cost of "the wall" is projected to be between 20 billion and 70 billion. What is he going to do with 5 billion? Perhaps it's more about the way he looks to the base. Look at me I'm the tough guy fighting for the wall. Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of American's are suffering. Think about how despicable that is.
They always start out asking some crazy high figure, much more then they need, if they say total cost is 20-70 billion, its probably more like $5B in reality.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Now that President Trump has declared a National Emergency, the issue of the U.S. Supreme Court deciding the fate of the Wall has becoming more immediate.

Trump just now stated that he thinks this will go through the lower courts and end up at the Supreme Court. This is going to get interesting.

How do you think the courts are going to rule now that we know more details about the funding for the Wall?
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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If republicans were in complete support they’d have approved the spending in the past two years.

Send it to the Supreme Court so they can shoot it down, that’s fine. No president has the power to do what you think he should. It’s not about the border wall, it’s about constraints on power. The whole reason we have separate branches.
Those of us that are concerned about illegal immigration understand fully that we aren't just fighting democrats. MANY of the republicans and maybe most of the republicans in power don't want to stop illegal immigration any more than the democrats.


they have different reasons but they are bother utterly wrong and borderline evil.
Republicans want illegal immigration to keep wage inflation down and dems want a permanent underclass that will vote for them.




bother are dirtbag groups with dirtbag reasons. don't confuse those of us supporting Mr. Trumps wall talk for being supportive of dirtbag republicans who are hurting working class Americans.
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