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I went to see the movie "Vice" (very interesting, by the way), but was left with two factual questions. These points were unfamiliar to me, but went by so quickly that I wasn't sure I heard them correctly.
First, that there were over 20,000 missing emails from the Bush administration. Not sure whether that was Bush, Cheney, or the W.H. as a whole. But it would be odd, considering the fuss that was made over Hillary's email.
Second, it sounded as if on 9/11, Cheney gave a directive not to safely evacuate Congress. If true, that's incredibly shocking - as if he would be trying to jeopardize everyone's lives.
Anyone know whether I heard these correctly and if they're true?
George W. Bush White House ‘Lost’ 22 Million E-mails?
What's True
Roughly 22 million White House e-mails exchanged via private servers during the G.W. Bush administration were deleted instead of being archived in accordance with the Presidential Records Act.
What's False
As opposed to being permanently "lost," an undetermined number of the e-mails were subsequently recovered (though they have not yet been released to the public). https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/g-...llion-e-mails/
"President Bush commuted Libby's sentence of 30 months in federal prison"
"President Donald Trump fully pardoned Libby on April 13, 2018."
Nothing much seems to change over the years. It's not whether you are criminal or treasonous. It's not even whether you get caught. It's whether you get pardoned.
The argument was over pardon, not commutation. Cheney wanted desperately to get a pardon for Libby; Bush said no. Bush won, and there was no manipulation. BTW, Trump actually did pardon Libby.
George W. Bush White House ‘Lost’ 22 Million E-mails?
What's True
Roughly 22 million White House e-mails exchanged via private servers during the G.W. Bush administration were deleted instead of being archived in accordance with the Presidential Records Act.
What's False
As opposed to being permanently "lost," an undetermined number of the e-mails were subsequently recovered (though they have not yet been released to the public). https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/g-...llion-e-mails/
Interesting to note that Justice Kavanaugh, IIRC, was W. Bush's staff secretary (responsible for organizing paper work). So if this is the case, I wonder if all of this was his fault.
It's definitely worth seeing - but best seen by people who already have some basic information.
Wait, "private servers"? You mean they were doing exactly what they damned Hillary for doing?
Of course you know how they are, it only matters when someone who doesn't have a R next to their name does it. I have to admit they are pretty effective at it for some reason, if Dems didn't have majority of the country or the media. We'd be non existent
Even Nixon was pardoned. Ollie North is now a hero.
At some point we have to sit back and wonder about responsibility.
Since we have evolved into 'investigation nation,' I think the pardon power is more needed than ever.
Libby was convicted of the bogus 'lying to investigators' because prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald could not get him on any actual crime. The case was about the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame, and it turned out that the applicable law did not apply to her. She had already been outed by Russian mole Aldrich Ames, and thus could no longer do covert work. And it wasn't even Libby who outed her--it was Colin Powell's buddy Richard Armitage at the state department.
Just another Hollywood hit piece about Republicans. I wonder when the Obama, Hillary, Benghazi movie will come out? Will Susan Rice get a cameo?
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