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Old 01-13-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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Comparing the entire state of Wyoming with its farflung population of 585,000 with a densely packed major urban area like Baltimore is like comparing oranges with Corgis.

At least your posts are good for a laugh. Carry on.
What you're saying is blacks murder at a higher rate than whites. Case closed.
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Old 01-13-2019, 07:43 PM
 
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Guns shouldn't be allowed in bars.

They are in many places, where I live it would be up to the bar owner. When Virginia first allowed this crimes involving guns inside of bars/restaurants dropped slightly the first year.


https://www.richmond.com/archive/gun...e2add8ebf.html
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Old 01-13-2019, 07:49 PM
 
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Guns shouldn't be allowed in bars.
Guessing is a bad idea. Local bar owners here thought it would hurt when smoking was stopped. But business almost doubled.
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Old 01-13-2019, 07:55 PM
 
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Guessing is a bad idea. Local bar owners here thought it would hurt when smoking was stopped. But business almost doubled.

That would largely depend on the type of bar, in my area they were given choice. They could remain smoking allowed as long as food sales were less than 20% of the gross. Many opted to stop selling food.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:01 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Most of Baltimore's murders involve low income black Americans, and these murders are connected to illegal drugs and gangs.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/baltimo...-gray-killing/

Baltimore murder statistics 2018,
242 murders involving black Americans
10 murders involving white Americans
https://homicides.news.baltimoresun....ack&range=2018
https://homicides.news.baltimoresun....ite&range=2018

How would weaker gun control laws decrease murder rates for low income black Americans involved with illegal drugs and gangs?
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Originally Posted by Colorado Rambler View Post
Comparing the entire state of Wyoming with its farflung population of 585,000 with a densely packed major urban area like Baltimore is like comparing oranges with Corgis.

At least your posts are good for a laugh. Carry on.
Any way to deflect from the utter failure of gun control laws to protect innocent people. But then-gun laws were never meant to actually apply to criminals.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:17 PM
 
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Most of Baltimore's murders involve low income black Americans, and these murders are connected to illegal drugs and gangs.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/baltimo...-gray-killing/

Baltimore murder statistics 2018,
242 murders involving black Americans
10 murders involving white Americans
https://homicides.news.baltimoresun....ack&range=2018
https://homicides.news.baltimoresun....ite&range=2018

How would weaker gun control laws decrease murder rates for low income black Americans involved with illegal drugs and gangs?
Weaker laws would not decrease murder rates but neither would stronger laws.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:18 PM
 
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What you're saying is blacks murder at a higher rate than whites. Case closed.
Yes, blacks are 13.8% of the population and commit around 50% of the murders.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:25 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Weaker laws would not decrease murder rates but neither would stronger laws.
"The largest analysis of the link between gun violence and gun control legislation was published last year by a group of public health researchers in the journal Epidemiological Reviews. They analyzed 130 studies from 10 countries that explored the connections between firearm regulations and gun violence."

"The authors conclude that specific laws combining different types of firearm regulations are the best way to reduce deaths from gun violence. They also found that some specific regulations – such as background checks – are the most effective. And laws that relax restrictions on the sale and use of guns lead to more gun-related deaths."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...related-deaths
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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"The largest analysis of the link between gun violence and gun control legislation was published last year by a group of public health researchers in the journal Epidemiological Reviews. They analyzed 130 studies from 10 countries that explored the connections between firearm regulations and gun violence."

"The authors conclude that specific laws combining different types of firearm regulations are the best way to reduce deaths from gun violence. They also found that some specific regulations – such as background checks – are the most effective. And laws that relax restrictions on the sale and use of guns lead to more gun-related deaths."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...related-deaths
Apparently it's not specific laws that reduce deaths from guns per capita. Baltimore high gun homicide rate per capita Wymong low gun homicide rate per capita. Baltimore strong gun regulation, Wyoming weak regulation. Difference between the two population density, which has nothing whatsoever to do with gun regulations.

There's no denying that low population density has a massive impact on gun homicide rates per capita. This would imply that regulations are not critical, but some entirely different causative agent has far more impact (it would be naïve to presume just density is the issue).

At least in the US.
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