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I don't think anybody here has a problem with women being portrayed as badasses.
What people have a problem with is that it's become the *norm*, even on shows that don't involve people with supernatural powers. Nearly every new action show/movie has some virtuous and intelligent (preferably brown) woman beating the **** out of evil/nasty/ignorant white males as a matter of course. It's lazy, virtue-signaling writing.
This despite the undisputable facts that:
1. The vast majority of women are demonstrably weaker than the vast majority of men.
2. White men are far less likely to be violent criminals than black men... but we are the go-to demographic for criminals in cheap, boiler-plate, poorly written action shows/movies.
Is it so much to ask that entertainment bear *some* resemblance to reality? Particularly in shows that don't fit into fantasy genre?
Is it so much to ask that my own demographic not be *routinely* portrayed as evil pieces of ****? Particularly when statistics overwhelmingly show that we Evil White Males are FAR less violent than black or latino males?
Or are we supposed to just happily watch and never notice that we're being falsely portrayed as weak/evil/degenerate pieces of **** in nearly every show that comes out?
I think you have hit it on the head about it being the new norm. The writers and producers of these shows are obviously making the promotion of the neo-Marxist Democrat left "identity politics" and "Political correctness" agenda a higher priority than the creation of good art or entertainment for their audiences.
If it was just one or two shows, we could all just shake our heads and say whatever. But these people are like lemmings. What one does, they all do. It has become increasingly difficult to find any shows that does not positively reek with the stench of their ideological orthodoxy oriented virtue signalling. It is nearly all of these shows. It has become distasteful to the point of being offensive.
As far as white people being the bad guys, again, if it was not so blatantly organized around pushing their propaganda and their efforts at imposing their warped and depraved values on everyone, I would not care. Or if it was just the odd show here or there, then whatever. But no.
The agenda is diversity and multiculturalism, is good, and to be admired. So, we see men kissing each other in ads, and more often than not, mixed race couples in ads and soap operas especially. Plus we see, especially white men, portrayed as stupid in various media. We see Muslim women gay characters, with parents tolerant, and happy with the situation. In reality, the gay daughter has a good chance of being killed by her own family in a honour killing.
Every soap opera has to have at least one token gay couple, preferably two, and mixed race. They are always wonderful people, and fine examples of human beings. Women in these shows, seem to like the idea of hitting men, and always winning.
Every English period drama of the 18th and 19th century has to have black characters, when in reality, they were almost unknown in Britain. Most people of that period lived their entire lives without seeing a black person. Now, if this is being done, to give black actors work, fair enough. My take on it, is that it is quietly trying to make young people think this is the truth, and is a honest representation of history.
It's all about moulding minds of the young, to think the world they present is the real one. It isn't. They're playing the long game. This game is to present white people, especially men as fools, and also to feel shame for the actions of ancestors. I see efforts in America of a similar tone.
2. You don't "make up for it" (at least not individual citizens...the gov't has already done too much to try to counter the past and in doing so has mistakenly trounced on other races/genders)...you try to move forward and make things better/accepted while attempting to keep race, etc. out of it. NOT by now trying to "even up" the score by favoring one race, gender, orientation while beating down or undercutting another (the most popular for a while now - white males)....and that's EXACTLY what is happening and why certain groups (again - mostly white males) are feeling disenfranchised & piled on.....wonder why Trump won?? Trying to "find" someone or a group to blame for past ills and targeting them as the villains never works....it just transfers the anger & animosity to that group or side and creates more/future problems.
1. I'm tempted to just reply "that's easy for you to say."
2. I think you are being a bit naive about simply "trying to move forward." Hollywood is interested in making money first and foremost. They know their demographic and again there is pretty much something for everyone. Hollywood isn't trying to mirror society. They are story tellers, wanting to attract as many eyeballs as the can regardless of color. Not sure the numbers, but I see a lot of movies, and I don't have all this heartburn expressed by Trump types who always seem to think in these terms, "them vs us." Men vs women, whites vs blacks. We're all people, people...
I could go on but here again I know we've all made up our minds about this sort of thing. How we feel. Fact is however, "over-representation" is difficult to verify without some actual data beyond what anyone seems to think based on whatever movies they happen to watch*. Whether we like it or not, how white males compare to women and POC in a lot of important categories (education, poverty, income, leadership roles, government) suggests the problems of sexism, racism and all the other forms of bigotry are still all too alive and well (with all due respect to Trump supporters who are loath to admit this). As an older white male, I'm not happy about that either, but I'm not fool enough to deny the fundamental reality about these problems or feel in the least bit slighted by the effort to better respect, promote and/or represent woman and non-whites given all the room between where they are as a rule compared to the typical white male in America today.
* Movie trivia question for you: what percent of the Academy (that votes for who gets the oscars) are women?
Beyond the MAGA hats and the heads that fill them...
"But all these firsts, while cause for celebration, are also an opportunity to reflect: Why has it taken so long? And how far do we have left to go?
To answer those questions, it's helpful to look at the make-up of the industry body that actually makes the decisions that lead to people vying for little gold men..."
It is Virtue Signaling that women can be better than men in every way, even physically. It is absolutely RIDICULOUS. I understand that movies are entertainment, and don't have to be realistic, but c'mon.
Hollywood will always take a topic too far. I believe women can be great at sports, succeed as soldiers and be tough if they want to but when you see diminutive, petite, little Asian women beating up big, overtly muscular men, Hollywood went too far. That is why I stopped watching Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D after only three episodes, the main characters were extremely ridiculous.
"But all these firsts, while cause for celebration, are also an opportunity to reflect: Why has it taken so long? And how far do we have left to go?
That sums up what many of us have been pointing out regarding the socialist engineering and liberal brainwashing that says identity politics must mean total equality in numbers, outcomes, and anything less must stem from ______ism, _______phobia, etc.
As to "firsts being celebrated", I seriously think people who look at things in that way are deluded. The first woman I vote for to be president will have ZERO to do with her gender, and will be based on my belief she will do a better job than her opponent (regardless of gender).
The same with a minority.
While I understand some will be "celebrating" the first XYZ (like they did with Obama), it is irrelevant if the person is not up to the job.
I was no McCain fan, but no one can claim Obama was more qualified or a better leader than McCain.
The group that works to get women elected to various posts is a prime example of looking at gender first, and everything else second.
That is no way to go about getting the best and brightest people for the job.
As to the overall theme of the thread, rest assured women are physically inferior to men in most aspects, and cannot compete on the same level. That is part of the reason everyone is watching the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL instead of women attempting to play those sports.
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I see a lot of women getting the better of men in physical fights in movies and telly soaps. It makes me smile that's all I'm saying.......
Now, you keep showing stuff like this, you're bound to get a percentage of especially young girls to think it's true.
Now in my day, we were taught never to lay a hand on a woman, because they're the weaker sex. That's what we were told.
I know one thing. There is a woman's shelter full of frightened women, and their children, not too far from where I live. I have never heard of one for men.
The ATS was more or less “the women’s Army”, and had originally been created to provide traditional “women’s work” like cooking, filing or typing while men and boys got on with the combat business.
But the thing about wars is that people die, and by 1941 Britain had a shortage of men. The government launched the Newark Experiment, a top secret trial to test whether women were capable of manning (or womanning) the huge searchlights that had until then been operated by men. Women are of course capable of anything, and the success of the test, plus recommendations from leading engineer and women’s rights leader Caroline Haslett, led to further roles opening up to women, including anti-aircraft artillery. Enter Jeanne, as brave and naive as any soldier before her. Women were legally barred from joining overseas combat units, but I don’t doubt that she’d have served on the front if she had been allowed. Instead, she helped shoot at the Nazi planes attacking Britain.
Women in uniform took office and clerical jobs in the armed forces in order to free men to fight. They also drove trucks, repaired airplanes, worked as laboratory technicians, rigged parachutes, served as radio operators, analyzed photographs, flew military aircraft across the country, test-flew newly repaired planes, and even trained anti-aircraft artillery gunners by acting as flying targets. Some women served near the front lines in the Army Nurse Corps, where 16 were killed as a result of direct enemy fire. Sixty-eight American service women were captured as POWs in the Philippines. More than 1,600 nurses were decorated for bravery under fire and meritorious service, and 565 WACs in the Pacific Theater won combat decorations. Nurses were in Normandy on D-plus-four.
Because we stereotype ... ^ change is coming and in some areas, it's here.
What writers like to do, storytellers, is to take a role that isn't a dominant fill in, like not too many women are in journalism and so they create it. Thus then we'll see films come out portraying female journalist or female scientist or female geek, etc ... so as to throw that idea out into society and see if change will emerge ... Many times the idea takes hold and colleges will fill up with women taking a more active role in their studies, to fill in those areas that will most likely hire one to prove themselves capable.
If we can imagine it ... we can be it. That sort of thing ... So those of you that are tired of seeing women in combat roles in the motion pictures, don't watch that flick. I for one would like to see more women engaged and empowered and if takes a bit of make believe to get them to believe in themselves ... come on Hollywood, we need more of that. Men created the playing field, they should reap what they have sewn.
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Hollywood will always take a topic too far. I believe women can be great at sports, succeed as soldiers and be tough if they want to but when you see diminutive, petite, little Asian women beating up big, overtly muscular men, Hollywood went too far. That is why I stopped watching Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D after only three episodes, the main characters were extremely ridiculous.
Ever see a petite one handle herself in a hospice with a psychotic person ... ? I have ... technique, they have it.
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Lmao.
yea, laugh now ...
This year in the Democratic party more diverse than ever before in its history with many more females taking an active role in their home states and cities ...
The Repbulican party, not so much ...
There is a reason for that Trump has done more to inspire women than Hilary Clinton ever could and that's a fact.
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I for one would like to see more women engaged and empowered and if takes a bit of make believe to get them to believe in themselves ... come on Hollywood, we need more of that. Men created the playing field, they should reap what they have sewn. 
