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Because one of the criticisms against socialized medicine is that it leads to poor healthcare and lack of innovation. Yet this is proof to the contrary.
lol You didn't even read the post you quoted and commented on. lol Nothing to do with socialized medicine.
If you need more proof - "Kelsey Cooper, a spokeswoman for Paul, said the hospital is privately owned and people come from around the globe for their services. "
Are you actually claiming they do not accept patients (and payment) from the Canadian Public Health System? Because the vast majority of their patients are canadians who are covered under socialized medicine.
BTW, there are plenty of surgeons who do the Shouldice method of hernia repair here in the US.
One huge misunderstanding in this thread; Canada does not, nor has it ever had a socialised healthcare system. It has universal healthcare, using the single payer model.
For it to be socialised, the government would determine your treatment plan - THEY DO NOT. Your doctor determines what treatment is needed, acts accordingly and then bills the provincial health system.
That is vastly different from what people allege.
Also iirc, about 80% of all patients at Shouldice Hospital are covered under the provincial healthcare system. While it is privately owned, it does operate under the provincial system, as is required of all hospitals under the Canada Health Act.
lol You didn't even read the post you quoted and commented on. lol Nothing to do with socialized medicine.
If you need more proof - "Kelsey Cooper, a spokeswoman for Paul, said the hospital is privately owned and people come from around the globe for their services. "
What seems to be getting lost in all of the offerings and rebuttals is there is no "separate" system based upon private ownership. Most hospitals in Canada are privately owned by other than any government entity. The only distinction made will be to what or whom the bill gets sent. There is not a distinction in quality or level of service based upon who is paying.
Here's some additional information showing who have received care at this facility: https://www.shouldice.com/ Scroll down to the personal endorsements and view the list of millionaires.
Canadians of all walks of life have been getting hernias repaired there with single-payer paying for them for over 60 years.
In this case Senator Paul's extra-special, only for him and his peers, paid for by you, insurance will get billed instead of Canada's single payer system.
lol You didn't even read the post you quoted and commented on. lol Nothing to do with socialized medicine.
If you need more proof - "Kelsey Cooper, a spokeswoman for Paul, said the hospital is privately owned and people come from around the globe for their services. "
You're missing the point here: maybe Canada has a better health care model than the U.S. does precisely because they have BOTH socialized medicine and private healthcare.
All I know is the convoluted and disorganized "system" in the U.S. is horribly inefficient and costly. Big insurance companies are parasites that interfere with doctor-patient relationship and then charge a profit for doing it.
You can see any doc anywhere in the world IF YOU PAY CASH. Concierge care docs in the US don't take insurance and it's up to you to try to get reimbursed.
One huge misunderstanding in this thread; Canada does not, nor has it ever had a socialised healthcare system. It has universal healthcare, using the single payer model.
For it to be socialised, the government would determine your treatment plan - THEY DO NOT. Your doctor determines what treatment is needed, acts accordingly and then bills the provincial health system.
That is vastly different from what people allege.
Also iirc, about 80% of all patients at Shouldice Hospital are covered under the provincial healthcare system. While it is privately owned, it does operate under the provincial system, as is required of all hospitals under the Canada Health Act.
Exactly! I get the distinct feeling some Americans are unable to grasp the concept of the word "universal" as it applies to Canada's healthcare.
They seemingly cannot understand, or fail to accept, we see the doctor of our choosing, attend the hospital of our choosing, are free to seek alternate opinions from any number of specialists, get treated without deductibles co-pays, yearly maximums, any considerations such as in-network nonsense, frequent requirements for additional information, pre-existing condition exclusions, NONE of those are in the lexicon of medical coverage in Canada.
We never see a bill and in 100% of the cases would very likely have no idea what any of our medical treatment is costing the system.
The doctor and hospital simply sends in paperwork to the Provincial government ticking off all the appropriate little boxes outlining the patient' identity with his assigned OHIP (eg.) number, their services provided and they gets a cheque in the mail forthwith.
You're missing the point here: maybe Canada has a better health care model than the U.S. does precisely because they have BOTH socialized medicine and private healthcare.
All I know is the convoluted and disorganized "system" in the U.S. is horribly inefficient and costly. Big insurance companies are parasites that interfere with doctor-patient relationship and then charge a profit for doing it.
They do not have two systems; they both, operate within the one government mandated system.
Doctors are their own employers. They do not work for the government, unless of course they're in the military.
Hospitals run the full gamut of ownership and operation from non-profits run by monks/nuns to corporate entities. They all bill the same system and are run adhering to set standards of medical oversight and compliance set by the Federal and Provincial Governments.
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I get the distinct feeling some Americans are unable to grasp the concept of the word "universal" as it applies to Canada's healthcare.
to corporate entities. They all bill the same system and are run adhering to set standards of medical oversight and compliance set by the Federal and Provincial Governments.
